Speech before singing Mine (talking about Speak Now)
I talk a lot about how folklore was the first time I was writing about characters and stuff, but actually Speak Now I was inventing scenarios that definitely weren't happening in my life. I wrote this song Speak Now about interrupting a wedding of an ex and like.. I was 18 when I wrote that. None of my exes were getting married. I never interrupted a wedding, it was just a fantasy. And I think that's one of my favorite things about Speak Now, it was so fantasy, it was so fantastical, I think it was the first time I was thinking in cinematic, you know 'this isn't my life', but what if it were? Like watching a movie, and trying to write what those characters might be feeling. I say this because I wanna play a song, that when I wrote it I was writing about all these relationship things that haven't happened to me. There's drawer of my things at your place, and thing like that. And working through fights and not just breaking up. Anyway, so those were things I was not par-taking in at 18 and 19, when I wrote these songs. It's been such a privilege and such a treat to go back and re-record them 'cause relating to them now.. it's really crazy to go back and listen to these songs that at the time were a fantasy but now feel really relatable to me. And um... this is called MINE.
do you interpret mastermind as "i orchestrated/designed the entire relationship with my beard" or as the genuine "i wanted to be with you so i planned out everything and none of it was accidental"?? or both maybe?
i completely believe it’s about taylor and karlie oh my goodness no contest.
it fits so many kaylor songs and how we think about their relationship.
but not just how taylor planned out how she was going to win karlie’s heart, it’s also a song that has a cute surprise twist midway through the song where it’s revealed that her love interest was also wooing her and knew she was being wooed!!
god i still can’t get over how she’s wearing the vsfs ring during this clip
Karlie Kloss and her husband Joshua Kushner first got married on October 18, 2018 in upstate New York
For lover album release on 23 August 2019
So Karlie knew all about lover they were together because it was about Karlie ( she promoted lover in express commercial)
the eye + mirror ball
The kisses
1 one from ads look similar to me with Taylor lorad and karlie pic
The man pic kiss also because he is she (Karlie)
Oranges
1 pic in Lover there are 3 oranges in it
In ads there also a woman playing with 3 oranges
The dress
Eye
Oh dame shirt
Also Christmas light ( we can leave the Christmas light until January)
Submission:
🎃 is retelling the story of the failed coming out, the masters heist, the Kaylor break of 2019, the formulation of the new longer more gradual coming out plan, the folk/more era of exile, the Kaylor reunion, and presumably… what’s next.
Oh, and Toe dipping out before planned.
The HEEL of the 1st message is Taylor BEING the heel, another word for antihero. She is flying toward coming out with Me!, YNTCD, etc. But she as she speeds toward actually doing it, she becomes afraid of what life will look like on the other side. So she tries to walk it back, only to look like she’s queerbaiting.
The glass castle was in the Me! Video. The bicycles were also in that video. She changed her mind on coming out, got spooked, hesitated.
The museum heist is the masters heist. The mirror in the glass: he’s got my past frozen behind glass, but I’ve got me. Sounds like someone threatening to out her, perhaps around the same time/in connection to the masters heist. Maybe the someone she recognizes is Scooter or Scott B?
The kitchen is the war room; the new, longer coming out plan with Tree + co. Sounds like Toe dipped out earlier than intended and took some evidence with him. Or maybe someone else close to her betrayed her. The dandelion metaphor is about “private moments too close to the fence,” so it makes me feel the betrayal was someone in her circle. Since nothing penetrates her fence.
The yard message is about being too sloppy within her circle and private life. Someone got evidence that could hurt her/Karlie.
The jumping into the water feels like it’s from summer 2019, Taylor giving Karlie up to protect her (“the rubies that I gave up” — in the Bible, rubies symbolize a Good Wife)
This harkens back to spade’s message “without hesitation she bent down to pick up the pieces and cut herself…” I feel like we originally assumed Karlie was the one who cut herself so Taylor could be whole but what if it was the other way around??
Maybe Taylor gave Karlie up, agreed to an NYC exile, to protect her??
The being swept out to sea is the period where Taylor is shipwrecked.
And the woods is when she finds the cabin in the woods, sends the signal to Karlie and they reunite in secret a la Willow. This is the folklore/evermore era. This story is all laid out in Evermore.
It also sounds like Karlie didn’t want Taylor to go; she would rather have hurt her image than lose her. So Taylor giving her up was sort of a romantic, heroic gesture… which really is what Lover felt like. Like letting someone go that you don’t want to. But having to bite your tongue and publicly be the antihero.
ALSO, a story in 11 parts then leaves 1: midnights.
It’s 11pm on the clock.
She looked so happy playing Our Song !
did you see the new taylor nation v-day playlist? 👀
https://twitter.com/realbrelor/status/1625582679193186304?s=46&t=bx_cAna5DG54qBGc8mOcRA
love this
TIMELESS (KAYLOR'S VERSION)
cc: @taylorswift @spade-riddles
Okay, just earlier today I did a post like this with the connections between JackOLantern’s messages and You’re Losing Me….but now the Karma music video is out and I AM LOSING MY SHIT. I’m 113% certain there’s things I’m missing, BUT OH WELL.
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🎃 Message 3: “Somersaulting past ancient artifacts, stopping only to admire a statue or two. ”
(Note: this scene transitions by Taylor leaning over and the camera spinning in a circle to begin the next scene…kind of a somersault.)
(also, wasn’t there just recently a big, long post about the justice tarot card relating to flag anon and that infamous betty/lavender haze mad men episode?)
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🎃 Message 8: “You have always craved destruction. Scrawled devil horns on photos of yourself. This is different.”
🎃 Message 3 “Dressed in your wife’s black leather and the mask of an illusionist”
(Note: @9w1ft has a great post on how similar Taylor’s outfit here is to Karlie’s met gala look….👀) (2nd Note: This message from 🎃 ends with the main character striking a match…this scene from the music video is very….flame-y.)
One more thought on this one…
🎃 Message 11: “Sheep have removed their wolf’s clothing with relief. Masqueraders with masks removed…”
(This line always stuck out to me in JackOLantern’s last big message. Usually the phrase is reversed “A wolf in sheep’s clothing.” Which suggest a predator pretending to be prey for a chance to attack. “Sheep in wolf’s clothing” would mean prey pretending to be a predator…perhaps to avoid being attacked by the other wolves? Did pumpkin anon just put into words what being closeted feels like PERFECTLY? Holding that line from their message up to this scene, where taylor is behind the mask of a devil….and then smiles and waves once she takes it off…..i’m thinking sooo many thoughts about this.)
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this one has LAYERSSS so bear with me!
in this scene, not only does it have a flourishing garden with patches of daisies…it also has a castle on the hill that she has wandered far away from, happy-go-lucky childlike body language, AND wizard of oz imagery….
🎃 Message 4: “The story of the person behind the curtain.”
(HELLO WIZARD OF OZ?!?!?!)
🎃 Message 7: “You are walking through your yard. It’s one of your favorite places, all sprawling garden rows and vibrant green grass […] There are daisies - so many daisies - in every shade of your rainbow.”
(Note: These daisies in the video are pink + gold…..literally lesbian flag colors. All the flowers in this scene are……)
🎃 Message 7: “…and set your foot on each stepping stone of the path that leads right to them. The house is a little farther now…”
(Note: The castle can be seen in this scene way in the background, up on a hill. ALSO, she is following a brick road….aka a stone path….I MEAN)
*BONUS! 🎃 Message 2: “You are on the balcony of an ice castle.”
🎃 Message 7: “…but you are still within the confines of your tall and impenetrable fence. Nothing comes through that fence. Not now and not ever. Within it you are safe.”
(This feels the way the fence is described in JackOLantern’s story…with all good, safe, unbothered things on one side, and unknown depths of darkness on the other….also the 3 grim reapers are an…interesting choice….)
🎃 Message 7: “Caught up in a moment of buoyant childlike whimsy, you make a wish and blow, blow, blow. Hundreds of featherly florets scatter. You laugh. You watch as they ride the breeze…”
(I MEAN COME ON!!! She is skipping around with a very childlike, lighthearted body language, and then she freaking blows purple glitter over TOWARDS HER ENEMIES……..!!!)
also worth noting that there is a little rabbit hidden in the garden…weren’t there some epic alice in wonderland connections made to JackOLantern recently? 🤔
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🎃 Message 10: “You wander through the woods. Deep in this Enchanted Forest […] You squint to make sense of your surroundings through the fog…”
(This one isn’t exact…but to have clouds/fog descending onto a thick wilderness/mountain/forest scene……..it’s all just really delicate, you know?)
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Note: the entire boat/pirate/nautical message + Ice Spice has a lyric that mentions waving white flags - which brings to mind pirates and surrender for me personally. (which is….exactly what that message was about. the main character surrendering herself to the bad guys.)
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🎃 message 9: “And now it is just a matter of time. The dripping of candle wax. The ticking of a clock.”
(Note…including their final goodbye message, we received 12 messages from JackOLantern….like the hours on a clock…)
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THAT IS ALL I CAN SPOT RIGHT NOW. MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING. OH MY GOD. @spade-riddles
Grab some tissues. It hits different 😭 ____________________________________
In May 2015, a blind item came out that said Karlie was moving things out from Taylor's apartment.
2020: Five years later in the song EXILE, Taylor referred to this fight that they supposedly had in the same way.
in 2019, Taylor on the album LOVER made it clear that her muse is from the USA, that New York screams her muse's name and that her muse has a garden gate in the West Village Karlie is from the USA, New York screams her name and she had a garden gate in the West Village.
That place was very special for their relationship because Taylor was seen there very often and she moved to New York and bought an apartment near there to hang out with Karlie in her apartment.
2019: A month after the album LOVER came out, Karlie sold her apartment in the West Village which has a garden gate.
And a year later (2020), in EXILE Taylor refers to this by saying that this person was her town, but that she is now in exile watching this person out (??selling their special place and moving out??)
I think I've seen this film before. And I didn't like the ending. You're not my homeland anymore. So what am I defending now? You were my town. Now I'm in exile, seein' you out. I think I've seen this film before.
YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN single was released on June 14, 2019
On June 25, 2019 a blind items came out saying that if Taylor wanted to come out, she couldn't mention Karlie:
And also Karlie did an interview about how much she enjoyed her new life and Taylor is briefly mentioned in it as one of her "friends", as if she was just a wrinkle
And a year later - 2020 - Taylor would refer to this in CLOSURE saying that her lover is now enjoying a new life and how Taylor feels that she is a wrinkle or something that could ruin the new life that person has built without her
RIGHT WHERE YOU LEFT ME (2020): I could feel the mascara run. You told me that you met someone. Glass shattered on the white cloth. Everybody moved on. I, I stayed there.
In 2018 and 2019, Karlie had two weddings and even though Taylor was invited, she didn't attend, she said absolutely nothing about it and Taylor's team just said she was too busy
October 2018: But the same day or the next (it's confusing because of the time zones) of the first wedding Taylor sang I KNEW YOU WERE TROUBLE completely sad as a surprise song. Taylor and Karlie met when Taylor was performing that song
Two years later - 2020 - Taylor would refer to these weddings in EVERMORE. In RIGHT WHERE YOU LEFT ME Taylor sings about how the person she used to love left her and shortly there after married and built a new life without her
In this song there is a clear reference to a tradition in Jewish Weddings. Karlie converted to Judaism and had a Jewish Wedding
"Hair pin drop": We all know that this line is gay and what it means in this context is that Taylor's silence and her not attending Karlie's two weddings was something that confirmed that there was something more than a friendship between them
Did you ever hear about the girl who got frozen? Time went on for everybody else, she won't know it. She's still 23 inside her fantasy. How it was supposed to be. Did you hear about the girl who lives in delusion? Break-ups happen every day, you don't have to lose it. She's still 23 inside her fantasy. And you're sitting in front of me.
Taylor was 23 when she became Karlie's bff.
CHAMPAGNE PROBLEMS (2020) is about how Taylor lost her golden muse because she wasn't ready to get married and how she watched this person walk away not knowing what to do
"One for the money two for the show" Karlie had two weddings and this phrase appears in the photoshoot they did together in 2014
In HAPPINESS (2020), Taylor tells how she spent seven years with this person and how she felt like she was in heaven. Taylor wrote this song a month after it was seven years since she met Karlie
This is a clear reference to Karlie because in REPUTATION and LOVER, Taylor relates heaven and religion to this person. Karlie was a Victoria's Secret Angel
HITS DIFFERENT (2022): Dreams of your hair and your stare and sense of belief. In the good in the world, you once believed in me. And I felt you and I held you for a while. Bet I could still melt your world. Argumentative, antithetical dream girl. // Movin' on was always easy for me to do. It hits different (Yeah). It hits different 'cause it's you.
Are all the Eras tour BETTY stories true? Taylor already said Betty is the love of James' life. James had to fight to get Betty back! And she believes in a Happy End. (SEE THIS LINK)
Are we getting a Kaylor reunion or was that it...?! Anything to add?
(most parts by lavenderfishboy!)
Kristina O’neill via Instagram stories (3/24/23)