Me Too Girl.. Me Too

There have been countless mini-essays about how Billy anti’s hate him because he’s an “inconvenient abuse victim,” and how because he doesn’t react perfectly to his abuser, that that somehow means he deserves to be hated/left behind/left to die.

And it seems that because of this newest interview with Caleb that even some Billy stans here and on twitter are now buying into that kind of thinking too. I can’t even begin to tell you how disappointed I am in those people.

You know all that racist/violent/abusive behavior is from his father, you know that if he’d lived past s3 he would have turned his life around. He’s a 17-18 year old kid in the 80′s, he’s not doomed to forever be a monster.

It’s literally been like: “Oh no! This imperfect character that I like for being imperfect has been acting imperfectly this whole time!” suprise pickachu face blah blah whatever

im not even surprised it's the billy stans that are supporting grace and the eddissy shippers because if anyone knows what it's like to get hate, it's us.

Not me coming back on here just to find out Argyle isn’t gonna be in the next season…like bro was the best part of season 4 and they aren’t gonna make him come back??? Great way to ruin your fucking show, not like most people are gonna watch it anyways cause some of your fucking cast members can’t even show compassion to those who are hurting (and dying) as we fucking speak…fucking ridiculous.

I genuinely want to know how someone can simultaneously be Anti Billy and a Max Stan when Max herself is President of the Billy fan-club.

Or maybe it’s because he represents a certain portion of abuse survivors that don’t become meek and docile but instead angry and aggressive due to not having an active support system to help unlearn unhealthy coping mechanisms like the other characters you mentioned, ever thought of that?

You guys have characters such as Eleven, Max, Will, Jonathan as representation for abuse but you guys pick the racist abuser who likes to attack and threaten children. If he wasn’t an attractive white man y’all would not be on his side.

//Tw For Abuse, Suicide and other extensive childhood traumas, also long post of pouring my heart out cause I take fictional characters to my poor traumatized heart

Can we really talk about the S4 Vol2 Speech, though?

I can understand Max’s mixed feelings about her brother. I have some of my own about my sister, who behaved a lot like him and hurt me in some ways, even if she didn’t always mean to.

First, I want to talk about the fact that Max HAD TO KNOW that Billy was abused, to some degree.

Not because she was living in the same house as him for years, but because she continues the cycle. After she sedates Billy in the fight at the Byers’, she threatens him—

“Say you understand! Say it!”

A few scenes before this, his father says nearly the exact same thing— “Do you understand? Say it.” (Maybe not exactly but using most of those words.)

So Max would’ve had to have heard it used before, because it would mean she knew that’s how you get Billy to “agree” with something. And Max— Max is a good person. She’s good-natured, funny, and clever.

So you really expect me to think that Max, knowing her brother was abused and didn’t have a mother for some reason, after he sacrificed himself for all of her friends and very nearly the world crying and apologizing over and over in front of her, DIDN’T THINK HE DESERVED TO BE SAVED? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

I can understand the idea that he was the greatest “normal-world” terror in her life. My sister didn’t affect me directly, but her problems were a full time job and distracted my parents from me while I was still very young. On top of that, her and my other sister liked to gang up on and bully me. So trust me, I get it.

Let’s take a look at what Billy did.

He grabbed Max, threatened to hit her friends with his car, yelled at her a few times, made a vague comment against Lucas after seeing Max fight with him (which there’s a lot to say about this but I’ll keep it at the fact that Dacre has said this wasn’t racist and that the Dxffers refuse to deal with any issues whatsoever), pushed Lucas up against a wall, and fought with Steve. I’m not including the Vecna/Mind Flayer bs in this because he did it against his will, not to mention the reason he did half this shit.

Yes, I can understand how that could be scary, especially for a thirteen year old. Using my sister as an example yet again, she died at 18, right when she was “starting to get better.” Billy was doing the same, as he and Max seemed to have a truce in between S2/S3. She even said in her book that she wasn’t scared of him, but that’s largely considered “non-canon.” To summarize, she understood he was abused and was even on level terms with him.

With my sister, I was not. I relate to Billy myself, but I largely relate Billy to my sisters, mainly my oldest sister (I really mean this. She acted out and got the attention of older people and went in and out of mental hospitals and was suicidal and got in a fist fight with my mother once, etc etc etc) Like I said before, my sisters bullied me (my parents and grandparents have admitted to me that they even knew they were outright nasty) and my sisters’ problems were largely the cause of one of my biggest issues. My sisters both acted out, distracted my parents from me, my whole family trauma dumped on very young me, etc etc etc. Really, that time of my life was a huge mess. And then my sister died, and even more trauma dumped on me from that (emotional abuse and neglect, divorce trauma, the fact that my sister was fucking dead and never coming back never never never how can someone just disappear, Etc). So we rarely got along and the rest of the time we were mostly neutral.

I’m not going to lie. I don’t really do it anymore, but when I was younger I’d curl up and cry about how I was all alone because my parents were to busy with them. I blamed them. I still do, but not in a how-could-you-do-that-to-me way and more of a these-events-caused-you-pain-and-got-you-attention-and-I-suffered-in-silence-for-multiple-reasons-that-aren’t-your-fault way.

You know what I don’t do? Say she didn’t deserve to be saved. Cause she did. She really fucking did. She could be mean and horrible and cold and she wasn’t even close to me but she was only eighteen, only for a couple of months (like Billy), and she was still a baby, she wasn’t even old enough to drink. She was small, she was always small, she’s just a kid. She was getting better and learning how to cope and being nicer to me and she was finding a purpose and getting a handle on herself and then she was just—

Gone. I still don’t understand how someone can just stop existing. Me and my sister still talk about how we expect her to just walk through the door, smack us on the back of the head, and laugh at us for believing it— that anything could ever kill her, of all people. That it was some big joke and we were dumbasses for believing it. It’s been years now, but I still break down at night crying over her. My sister and I have this bone-deep understanding of each other now that I can’t explain— it’s so genuine and whole that it kinda scares me. We call each other after nightmares and share dreams with her in them. My sister blames all of the “paranormal” activity in her house on her and tells me about it. Every time I see a bug (her nickname) or a rainbow I send it to her. When I was younger, I used to wish something would happen, either to her or to me, just so something would change. Do you know what I think every day? How she deserved better. How it should’ve been me or someone else. How she deserved to be saved.

Because “inconvenient” abuse victims deserve to be saved. People who’ve been broken and beaten and discarded and ignored and assaulted their whole lives aren’t irremediable and they deserved to be saved. My sisters deserved to be saved and I deserved to be saved and people like us, people like Billy, deserved to be saved too.

In short, fuck the Duffle Bag Bitches. I’m keeping this eccentric rat fucker close to my fucking heart and I’ll redeem and defend him eight thousand times if it means someone like me, like us, like Billy gets even a glimmer of hope to keep going.

Billy & Argyle || Wouldn't It Be Nice

Poor joseph quinn thirsting over joe keery the same way joe is/was thirsting over dacre montgomery.

Yeah, let’s be honest. Many people view Steve through fanon colored glasses. He is always reluctant, and even annoyed, to be dragged into whatever schemes the kids concocted. And yeah sure, he protects the kids when it comes down to it but it’s mostly out of a sense of obligation (being the oldest), not because they’re his uwu children. The only one he has a genuine bond with is Dustin (and maybe Max but even then we can’t be sure since we don’t see Steve visit Max in the hospital). The rest of them are kinda just there lmao. No hate on Steve, but his character has really been warped from how he really is in canon.

Real talk… the babysitter steve narrative is very fanon. Steve within the show never like… actually cares about the kids? Lmfao this is the same man who let a random 10 year old join his Russian conspiracy plot because no one else could fit in a vent like… I think y’all need to start opening your eyes

Preach Girl!

dear americans,

do something! germany has been there. people weren’t taking hitler seriously at first, they looked down on him. hindenburg was like let’s just let him do whatever he wants, at least he’s keeping the citizens quiet, what could possibly go wrong.

don’t be like hindenburg & don’t be like the germans back then.

don’t stay silent! do something!

sincerely, a german girl