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Screenshots from the smtown concert of Kai.
Screenshots from the smtown concert of Kai.
When Sehun sets out to find a cure for his sister’s illness, his ship gets attacked by a murderous dread pirate.
A man whose thirst for money, a fresh kill, and whiskey was preceded by his infamous reputation soaked in the blood of all who came in his path. A man so merciless, and ruthless— most would even as far to say, inhumane. But if this is the case, then why has this seemingly bloodthirsty pirate captain suddenly gone soft?
For a handsome farm boy, of all people— who simply looked him in the eye and said “please”.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/31816684
lol sike i’m just playin but if y’all weren’t ready for baekhyun and taeyeon, kai and krystal or kai and jennie then HOH HUNNAYYYZ y’all better be prepared, we getting a Chen Jr!
now let’s give this man a round of applause for finding love and becoming a father and devoted husband.
but let’s drop an “f” for xiumin ✊🏼😔
xiumin:
i ship xiumin and chen as BEST BROS ion know i’m here for that bromance. i also got that meme idea from someone on twitter, ion know their handle but creds to that comedic genius.
I just started laughing about something and clapped my hands. I never do that. The first thought that came to my mind was: "It's Chanyeol's fault." 😂😂😂
I really wish i could be as chill and fun when discussing jongin but the reality is the origins of my kpop journey never called for that. I only liked eggsos music for a very short period of my life and once I heard the demo tracks that ended. For some reason knowing they didnt make their hits or even contribute past one line or two just makes me feel icky. I never liked the others past the bullying years of 2012 to 2016. I also cut off kji when I felt like he was also very inauthentic. I returned out of curiosity for my research of the entertainment industry. Most artists in korea act like they are in some hybrid between the military and a gang. I just cant take it seriously. Its a hybrid between american hollywood and a dictatorship. The industry still rubs me the wrong way as apparently child protection laws and human rights in south korea are a suggestion.
In the end I comment on jongin 1 because i still do see some ...potential is the wrong word ...life maybe. He seems to have more of a soul than most in the industry. So I still check for him. Yet I wont lie or be fake. His recent projects have been god awful. Sm has ran him into the ground and dont seem like they will be stopping anytime soon. He is the most obvious case of "industry mistreatment programming" that I have ever seen. I still cringe at times seeing the toll the industry has taken on him.
I do however understand many fans are either very quiet because they just want to enjoy and relax. And others want community and friendship.
I get it. That was never my intention. I have a lot of perspectives on jongin and his career and I feel like sometimes I should keep them to myself..but then other times I feel like thats very unfair.
Online their are people that write very objectifying, dirty vile things about him but that is okay cause they are being quirky...
But if you talk about sprituality, souls, diets, genetics, chi magic, face yoga, spritual contracts ect or connecting things to the occult thats too far.
No its not. The lies are too far.
I just don't vibe with the lies anymore. And what is going on all over the internet about him the group, kpop and the entire entertainment industry is a lie.
So in my opinion as long as I have evidence for what Im saying anybody can choose whether or not they want to read or believe what Im saying. But the dumb fake arguements about literally nothing. Its a distraction. They plan things out for people to argue over so nobody every holds the company or artists or infrastructure accounatble. I cant just waste time like that anymore. I will write and make content from my perspective. Because there is nothing wrong with the truth. 99 percent of whats on the net about exo and jongin is a lie. I just cant anymore. They really take advantage of the language gap. So many people literally lying about things. Almost nothing they say is true.
I think its only fair to be transparent. I thought about creating another blog to post that stuff on but again that would just be more secrecy. There is no point. But I understand most people dont like that so at this point its just best I be honest. I like being chill but with kpop my conspiracy and investigative journalism side cant rest. I will post things of that nature from now on.
Its not all completely serious some things are simply opinions and research but those things help understand the larger picture.
I can only be so real on here cause its tumblr. The problem isnt just her its him too. Actually its mostly him. He was taught by quite a few different choreographers none all that good believe me. But at this point he is winding down in his ability to dance well at all. He is really bad now, I tried to explain this to a team Kai person but they dont understand. They are both the same height so you can see both of their shortcomings way easier. People didnt complain cause tita is shorter and was able to let him play up the masculine dominant role more. In reality when I watched both versions he is the main issue. She has structual problems as well but their teacher who taught them both has so many issues himself and he passed it along to both of them.
Saw a comment on twitter about kai possibly outgrowing bada lee as a choreographer (he was out dancing her in a clip) but the thing about choreography is you make it your own and kai is a DANCER. Not a person that follows choreography to a T; he WILL add his own spin to things that make it his. So it's not that she's behind, he's doing his own thing with the choreography she's giving him.
Talent is elevating what you're given, making it your own and leveling it. Kai does that. IDG ppl tryna discredit her...
1.so the tyla choreographer check I was right
2. Gas pedal shake it lyrics for adult swim
3. He was in l.a to film. And a few other places.
Dancing to not like us is the last hint other than a possible producer in common the only relation I can think of is maybe choreographer or director..or
Black dancers
In the hood.
Or...afrocentric.
So they all did connect most were red herrings but the song choices were important he even did not like us again on a show so I'm thinking....is gonna be any or some or all of these things.
2 Pegasus I think is ark of cov. So...ehh idk
At this point it depends on the particular interpretation.
I almost never predict albums cause it's so boring but this one was at the right time and I was still a bit interested. I still disagree with the rollout it sucked but it's sm. They just never do anything right. It's kinda sad at this point they don't know what to do..anyways. I feel like there should be...maybe a drama attached that's the only thing I think would go well with this big of an album. At this point its more cinema than musical
I believe Kai in Adult swim and potentially in all of exo's content is in some way a vampiric entity who seems to be obsessed with running a sort of religious cult with followers who dance with him and worship him.
Anyway to me the analysis kind of proved itself halfway through this is definitely what it is about
Like...it's just kind of right there.
Cause honestly I noticed nobody was analyzing, they were simply seeing it as oh Kim Jongin who plays Kai of Exo is doing a music video and he's coming back from the military and he's working so hard, just like and watch it. Which is exactly what they want people to focus on.
It seems like the real message of the music video has been completely ignored do to a focus on "real world events"
In Adult swim we are seeing Kai lead another cult which is something he seemed to have left behind thousands of years ago during peaches. But apparently not.
Towards the end he seems to be doing some sort of indigenous dance, it looks like a spirit dance native americans used to perform while he is surrounded by his cult members.
The Gender Bender
On this poster which is shown multiple times, it is expressing the belief that gender expression and identity and romance have nothing to do with one another. Which I agree. It's basically saying you cannot possibly figure someone out by knowing who they have or haven't slept with. Or figure out someone's orientation by the clothes they wear.
In the music video he is seen being close with guys, putting his arm around them, hugging and sitting very close. Yet he dances with a woman with whom he has some type of serious connection to. All while he wears a crop top. With the crop top he is wearing a durag which is seen as more masculine attire. There is every race present and yet for some reason they are all okay with him being in charge of them and they are okay with following his lead. Meaning he isn't simply a guy hosting this party, these people wakeup and end the night at a pool building so clearly this is some type of coven or something.
The other members seem to barely know how to dance and somewhat just shimmy a bit and there is a few scenes where you can see Kai trying to teach them how to dance but by the end no one does anything more than shuffle they don't even attempt to do the dance he does. Which they easily could of gotten background dancers to do, but they did not want to because that isn't the theme
These aren't the old followers who followed him throughout the ages but new followers who he has to teach just like children, they all look to him for guidance and seem not to know anything.
But like I said, with the hypnosis necklace is that just because they are all stupid or are they hypnotizied
Is the cult religious, do they believe he is an angel or a fallen angel. One believer is wearing a cross
then we see a kid with a fish
he begins tapping on the tank disturbing the fish
most likely a metaphor because Kai notices
It could be that Kai is the fish in the tank who must return to the water or the pool for some reason.
I suppose it could be a reference to the little mermaid or finding nemo, needing to get back to the ocean but instead he returns to the pool.
the ending is ominious and he ends up in an empty pool alone pointing to the nights sky
perhaps showing how he is bound to the earth after becoming a fallen angel and he's somehow confined to the water. Just like all his teasers his entire career have been water based.
I suppose this could also be a shared living dormitory
it says community and F normal. Which means they could all be each others found family.
okay I'm tired now but I loved this. I really think this could be a mini drama if they have the footage, send it to me I will edit it for them I promise, 30 bucks an hour. But no really I love this concept and idea and it reminds me of something I'd binge watch on netflix or hulu.
Fav moments the duets of course but also towards the end when they were all dancing in the mosh pit well he was dancing they were all acting like they have something on their shoulders and they are trying to get it off. I think that awkwardness was purposely input.
But my last fav moment I found that I can't incorporate with research was this moment when he made eye contact with this woman and he was going off doing his best club hoe gimme some dollars move to...impress her? Like there were men around he could of done that with. I don't think she knew what to do with that. I really don't know what the intention was and she was just kinda like
The music video is sped up but she turned away so slowly she was like I dunno about all that. No lie he's either a comedian or he like actually think he's a exotic dancer cause why would he do that.
It was actually the highlight of doing this for two hours. Like I'm gone, what did he expect her to do get behind him?
But yeah this was actually fun and honestly I have less space on my other apps so I put a lot of research on tumblr, and with stuff like this why not it's innocent and not too serious. I really enjoyed the song and music video at first I was hesitant but once I realized the average person didn't like it I was like okay it's safe. I like things that are an acquired viewing.
At first I was like ehh, but now I am seeing the vision. But I really think this could of been a really cute drama. Like 4 or 5 episodes I'm so ready for him to act again especially if it's in something like this, like please. Korean promo circuit is a particular torture for me. I do not find korean variety funny. I have watched japanese variety and laughed so many times. I've been watching korean stuff for years. I'm not sure if the humor doesn't hit for me but I'm very different in what I find funny. I noticed that I find Kji hilarious but not when he's trying to be funny on variety it's so cringe to me. Like I just sit their stoneface, but when he's just being himself doing goofy stuff like this he's very funny. I just wish they wouldn't script so much. I know korean t.v they script so much of it just to be safe so no one says something bad. It makes for awful, repetitive t.v.
So sadly his album and whatever he does will be all I will be able to enjoy. I just can't get used to korean variety it's so boring. It's never the show it's the system it's like some shows have way too many people writing them and I can tell. I can see for rookies but I can't understand they do it to grown adults.
But I would love to see him on the jennifer hudson show, or drew barrymore or maybe kelly clarkson. I think if he promoted in america they usually don't script that heavy so it will be much more natural. But I notice some kpop idols sort of crashout when they are given freedom to talk about things they would never say in korea.
There's also so many shows on youtube he could guest on.
Hailey bieber interviews people over snacks, tiny desk concert,also he literally has his own youtube channel but apparently he has to pay for editing and film himself. But his youtube is so so scripted like it's unbearable you can basically see him reading off a prompter.
Honestly if he would show himself doing stuff for work or during his viral moments that would be nice like an in between for filming mv's. Him talking with people, or his actual dance practice process.
I would love a behind the scenes for this whole process. He could of been making documentaries for every album, post them on youtube. The ones that show barely anything aren't entertaining, there's so much they leave out,
So I decided to analyze this music video since nobody does that now and days.
But first the lyrics.
24 year old me pretending I don't know what this is about
but yeah this is one of his only songs where there is no other meaning it's just as dirty as you think it is even though it's the name of a beloved cartoon network.
this is ...
Basically it's a clever and innocent way of referring to s.xual activity. Something younger people are restricted from.
But honestly literally all of his albums are about the same thing. S.x. Well all his title tracks refer to s.x the songs tend to be about either s.x or a relationship.
In the end of rover which is really chronologically the second album, we find him locked away in a cave and calling himself a sinner.
Now in this more modern music video we find he is in the present day with a new more ethnic group of young folks where he is teaching them the art of adult swimming.
He is the only one dancing in the music video other than the girl.
In the first scene we see a melting popsicle. Popsicles are made out of fruit. But it is cold and condensed and you must lick and consume it to get the flavor. So yeah. I mean I don't really expect deeper meanings from his work at this point but like it wouldn't hurt.
Anyway
I don't believe it's a coincidence that the woman is holding the popsicle. Her shirt says forever. If you are going off the metaphor that the forbidden fruit is the anatomy of a woman this is a direct continuation of peaches where not only has nothing about his behavior changed he is also more brazen about it. He is able to openly do this instead of being in a castle, a mountainside or some post apocolyptic temple. He's out in public living freely. As a fallen angel partaking in unheavenly delights.
We also see a bird in a cage so it's possible that these people are trapped and he is feeding off of them.
In peaches and mhmm we met his followers in white and gray garbs that served him in temples and palaces
He is dancing with her and he has an angel wings necklace on and she has a angel wing tattoo on his back. This is super old symbolism with him
In peaches he said it feels good to be the bad guy, so basically he is a vampire and he feeds off his cult members. How interesting. This cult is young and most likely unaware of anything he is or does because they are not worshipping him they are all just hanging out and partying at this sort of group home.
The nice young lady also has a skull and crossbone necklace symbolizing these cult members may have recently been reborn or he is easing them into his lifestyle. Albeit slowly.
Another skull and crossbones just so you know these people are marked for death.
The place is full of meaningful posters and graffiti in english that I believe is trying to communicate to the audience something about what we are seeing, it is a short music video after all.
Right here says "This moment is more precious than you all think" To me this looks like the typical cult phrase. This is not just a group of friends these people all are living together and partying together in this abandoned pool zone.
The angel wings necklace serve to symbolize that although his wings are hidden he still caries them with him in some way shape or form or basically he is still an angel even if he doesn't have his wings. And more than likely he still wants to be worshipped or in charge or a group of people just like he was in mhmm and Peaches. He still craves some type of power and control over others.
Lmao life imitating art or the other way around you never know.
he is also wearing the spiral necklace that was seen in rover.
The spirals symbolize hypnosis.
Implying that he is now exercising this control over his cult members now.
Kai unlike the others is ascended and he has been that way for some time. The others perhaps are newly ascended but under his own direction so he can be seen walking around checking on everything. It is similar to the seen in mhmm when he is looking over the city on the roof, except now there are people instead of an empty technowasteland.
he is almost acting like the lifegaurd of the place
Eventually after looking around he spots a girl with a angel wing tattoo on her back. This sets her apart from the others and is likely symbolic to her being awakened as well.
She notices him looking at her and turnsto him somehow making eye contact even though he's 25 feet in the air. But I suppose it's similar to him being high up like an angel even though he doesn't have wings. Maybe they are saying like his rank and status as an angel is above hers. I don't know for sure.
then he begins dancing by the pool and draws attention to himself
Then later we see a split screen of Kai watching the woman dance, we don't see the shot of him directly watching her but the screen is split in half to show us her dancing and attracting his attention.
It's almost surreal.
We are seeing from his perspective.
Oddly oddly enough we get a close up and see that she is actually nowhere near him so he must be watching her from a long distance
On a yellow bin we see the graffiti words in english titled "Make More."
make more of what exactly?
The girl seems uncomfortable for a split second and seemingly out of nowhere Kai is suddenly right behind her, almost like he spawned randomly.
This music video is so elaborate and subtle it's amazing right after they began dancing this scene with a boy holding a lolipop that says I love you and he is wearing an anhnk
An anhnk in ancient kemet was basically a symbol for the reunification of the masculine and feminine principles. Them being in front of a yellow bin that says make more, wow.
It does make sense because with Kai's last few albums the angel symbology was heavy. She has a pair of inked wings on her back. They are both ascended so to speak, which makes sense why they are the only ones dancing together. Which I thought was odd, there are no other dancers. Which is definitely purposeful. In other music videos he may single out one female dancer but the dance usually contains 5 to 10 people in it. This music video only contains a solo and duet despite having a large amount of people in it.
after the little dance number we see a poster that says
"are you up or what?" Up referring to awakened or higher. In peaches he ascended out of a cave a went to the astral realm where he was able to dream walk.
We also see gender which only points to more questions with what is going on with the characters that we see in this. Are they all friends, are they even all human we don't know.
After this frame we get a scene with two people staring at one another. It seems to be either it's supposed to be representing what is happening between the two main dancers or they are influencing the behavior or the people at the pool.
We also get someone eating a peach which is again a reference to copulation
After this frame they continue their duet in the center of the room
and then they move onto the now empty pool
After they begin dancing the "pool' is now dry having been drained.
Which kind of ties into the he is feeding off of his members. Dancing could be a metaphor for an energetic exchange.
Even when he is shining in the later scenes where his shirt is sparkling
She is actually still behind him dancing in the dark, which is so symbolic. Like what are they doing? I mean I know it's symbolic he's feeding off her energy which is why his shirt is shining even though she is in the dark.
End of part one.
apparently they had black stylists, I may not have been completely right about the album theme but I was close enough.
close enough is good
I kinda felt bad for going on a unhinged rant about the awful s.m entertainment stylists and how they should be barred from doing anyone's hair. Also what I said about their untrained untalented stylists and that baddies and bad girls club had better hairstylists than them. I hate being rude, but if it made them reconsider to be clear I honestly don't care. Man I hope that man never is able to touch anyone's scalp ever again. I actually have a collection of the various scalp burns I've seen on about half a dozen kpop idols. I was this close with filing a report but I don't even know how that would work. But honestly I will say this, social media is observed by teams of people constantly to see how people are feeling about certain things. Apparently they do observe and see what people are loving and hating. I never wanted to spread negativity to those unqualified people and some of my tweets went a little to far and for that I am sorry. But at the same time there are hundreds of very good qualified stylists who take EXTREMELY good care of people edges, scalps and hair. Why not hire them. Especially if it's affordable. No one should have bald spots or scalp burns due to someone's lack of know how.
I've even seen him have bleach almost on people's ears, that can lead to burns. I'm sorry but if my family taught me anything sometimes you HAVE to open your mouth and say something when something wrong is happening. You have to, wrong is wrong even if the person is well beloved and famous. Even if the particular stylists wasn't working on his hair at least they are trying to find qualified people it's a start.
Since it will prolly come out soon I'll just post this with the info available. Even though I think my old analysis will also be at least somewhat accurate
So firstly the paris
there's a map of the seine river
Dive in(honestly I hope this isn't a title track or an album title but it could be a lyric)
Probably it's something about childhood or age because they keep showing stuff of him as a child
He liked the movie pirates of the carribbean play when he was younger so it might be related to that period of time.
he's wearing the colors of the french flag
Interestingly enough the beginning of the movie takes place in
Jamaica is a french colony
"The French colonial empire in the Americas comprised New France (including Canada and Louisiana), French West Indies (including Saint-Domingue, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Dominica, St. Lucia, Grenada, Tobago and other islands) and French Guiana."
This also connects to Bomba which is a afro-latino island dance style
"Bomba is an umbrella term that refers to a variety of musical styles and associated dances originating in Puerto Rico. It was developed by enslaved Africans and their descendants in sugar plantations along coastal towns, most notably Loiza, Mayagüez, Ponce, and San Juan, during the 17th century."
" The Bomba is of African origin and came to Puerto Rico with the introduction of African Slaves. The Bomba is traditionally played with percussion instruments, such as drums. The Plena was later derived from the Bomba style. These music styles and the traditional dances to it, represent the infusion of Taino, European and African traditions"
In the lyrics for Bomba it's kind of confirmed
In the behind the scenes for the tour someone described what the concept will be like
they said this and idk why nobody is talking about it because this video for the tour guide kind of explains what the album is going to be about
the stage looks are also with less clothes. So honestly I think it's gonna be basically what I thought it was going to be since it's a continuation of the other themes.
Stopping time and immortality references.
I'll stop here cause I don't wanna spoil the entire thing.
Mostly because I don't even think this album is new, I think this is something that was supposed to be a pt 2 to rover, meaning parts of it may have already been filmed like 2 years ago.
Cause the filming time doesn't make sense and they didn't spend more than a day and a half filming cause in between people thinking he was filming a music video in reality he was filming that ralph lauren mini film in...paris I think. They may have quickly shot some things in the middle of him doing promotion and fashion stuff. But I do not think it's much more than a few extra scenes and clips. He's been filming sparsely meaning the recording and everything was probably mostly done and they may have been doing reshoots or ad on scenes. Which explains why he dyed his hair blonde because one of the old scenes might be when he was filming during rover, so he had to match those scenes. Then the new hair color is probably because the 2nd mv is with brown hair. Otherwise they torched his hair for no reason or it was just a wig. And I know reshoots/wigs to cover up new hair due to extended periods between filming due to snyder verse. When filming is done in super short periods of time and magically everything is done that's a reshoot.
Or maybe they put moments or video clips from his childhood to make it like similar to one of those look how I've grown projects like beyonce did putting her childhood videos in her tour. Anyway that's what I think.
I can't wait for everyone to get to a point where they realize this and all the other times the members hit one another wasn't okay. No matter who did it. Nobody should put their hands and try to hurt their coworker in public, it's not cute. All the members have hit or pushed or kicked one another in some type of way. Honestly I found it weird cause it's very rare to have that happen so many times with such a controlled group which tells me this was normal. It's really sad cause many were very young, some hardly knew one another and it's just really suspicious. They all got used to disrespecting and being disrespected physically and it wasn't okay. Because S.m was the management I still blame them because it's their job to control that type of thing. It's obvious s.m let them do whatever, I suppose if they just start fighting oh well. They didn't care about these boys and in turn they took their frustration out on one another, but still had to makeup because they had no choice. They had to punish the others who misbehaved in public cause the managers weren't allowed to do so. It's very sick and I pray they get healing for all the trauma they went through.
130824 ; Incheon Airport ; lovey-dovey kaisoo ;
its sad how nothing was known about him for years and ppl just were able to craft their own narrative. I remember when people thought he was classy bougie and intelligent for years and then before he left he posted a video of him crip walking to a young thug song in the middle of the street and he said it was okay cause nobody was around. When fans thought he was a romantic sweet respectable young lad in reality, Bizzle B was his idol.
kai using justin bieber’s song to express his feelings
he has a hangup at literally every stage that's why I get so upset when people push that he came from this big happy family, like pls stop saying that when you don't know someone's childhood. You don't know what being a kid was like for anyone but especially a child entertainer. It's very rough for anyone. But particularly in Korea. Especially in kpop and especially at s.m. I don't ever wanna push to just feel bad for people all the time but how people overeroticize him when almost every habit he has is traced back to child neglect, it gets under my skin seriously.
jongin why
I love how they were all in each others space and ty stopped and turned away when bk said that and then Kai busted out laughing and vehemently denied it and they put all the blame on bk and gets closer with him again. Ty just let kji handle it cause he's not a good liar. "Like real brothers"..................... just what could he be referring to???????????
Lmao he said even "real brothers don't do that" and then hit ty on the back. It's so funny cause people will lie and their body language tells on them. Lmao he hit him so hard on the back cause his laughing was giving the truth away.
Q: Are there moments where you felt like you feel really close like siblings? ✧ 200928 MTopia production press conference
Its crazy how multiple people have confirmed that jongins been in arrested development his whole life and people think he is mature. He is physically developed but his maturity is stuck at like age 8 when his father pushed him to become something in the ent sector. So many people never talk about how stressful his life must have been he was in school full time plus over 5 activities. He said over the years he did art, calligraphy, he tried taekwondo but he sucked, jazz, tap dancing, and ballet and was an sm terminal for years before even auditioning again and becoming a trainee. On top of they wanted him to be a child model. He would of had issues even if he wasnt in s.m but sm is another reason why he wasnt able to develop. All the staff became substitite parents and babied him. He just stopped being a kid which is why he is the way he is. His office is full of child's toys and he constantly refrences cartoons. He literally is mentally stuck at that age and even kids find him immature. Which explains why he doesnt say anything when kids tease him and never demands they respect him because they think he and them are on the same level. Ricky kim even basically said this when asked why Kai was so good with kids. I also noticed he never demands younger people respect him or use honorifics. He doesnt even understand the concept or at least he doesnt think it even applies to him. Hence why he argued with Taemin in middle school about the honorifics thing and didnt think it was important. Honestly its not a sweet thing but a real psychological hangup he has that he requires others to take care of him at all times, whether on variety, in a band or in his friendgroup. During the variety they did im 2022 I think his different mindset is so apparent now that he can actually talk more. He doesn't get jealous in relationships allegedly cause 8 year olds don't really care that complexly about relationships. Physical boundaries mean nothing to him so thats why he is okay with a partner feeding or zipping up someones jacket. Him talking to a psych major is so funny cause i know he is already aware of all of this cause he reads psychology books. SO he's aware but that doesnt change his issues. You cannot fix this problem unless you go back in time and become a kid again. Which is something he's constantly trying to do. Lmao that why the other member said he thinks he's gen z it was an inside joke because he really does think he is younger than he is. It happens to lots of people. Which also explains why he was begging to be a few years younger a few years ago and didnt want to talk about being 30. They will be married with kids but they are still psychologically stuck at a certain age. A lot of people say he acts like he's five but I will go with 8 because thats when he began doing all those activities. Too much stress on tiny very young person like it was gonna happen regardless. His stage persona is a mask yes, but its more than that. That is the person he created to be what the top superstars during his youth were.
even sehun wants to take care of jonginnie ♡ [trans]
why can't ppl laugh? man live a little they act like korea's war zone anything that happens must be taken so seriously. Like grow up how are ppl gonna react when they start letting these people actually be free and they are seen with models. Will people actually faint?
longpost---- open to find out the truth about asian idols in america
Is it because this ruins the illusion that some tense dating situation was going on. All these people knew and grew up together, behind the scenes they all talk and behave normally kpop idols only act antisocial for the cameras and the fans. The only awkwardness that exists is the kind they make up while they are company slaves. The minute they are free they are like regular people. This is why I always push the Kji is secretly dating an ig model or something because like in people's mind it's impossible but realistically he's gone to so many events and has met so many celebs that people forget he knows.
Sadly the realistic side of the korean entertainment host club industry is ain't nobody wants to see it, even if it's like common sense that's what most dudes are into, doesn't matter.
This is why its so annoying when people keep on with those same company made ships for so long. Like they clearly know other people even though they refuse to say it, they do. Like social media is where celebs play in public, they rarely address anyone if they don't know them in some type of way.
After going to the same events people in the same circle have followed him on instagram. Like it's so funny how people can't put two and two together but can tell you a bunch of scripted company nonsense some poor intern got paid 25 cents an hour to write.
Most personalities, friendships and personal info told by the company about an idol is FAKE. They sign contracts to play characters for the company, many even change their legal names. What they like, their taste, their innocence level it's all scripted. They are real people who have emotions and make emotional connections just like anybody else. Language is a small barrier for humans and it always has been. Just because their english isn't at a native level that does not mean they can't have english speaking friends.
Kji and so many others are apart of so many other circles other than kpop and their groups.
Like celebs have very small private circles once one person is invited in then they get to know everybody else. Fenty offered him a contract forever ago, contacts like that don't just go away. Do people think just cause you don't see him publicly @'ing people that he doesn't use his instagram for other reasons, like be serious people have no idea who he talks to, they just assume he lives in an isolated shy baby doll world and he doesn't.
Kai literally refused for years to start an instagram and staff forced him to do one for promotion and he immediately deleted it. Asap rocky asked him for his insta once, one time! and he was right on it.
Public account. He'd been had a private one tho. And then he talked about it publicly which he did not have to do, but he wanted to.
Jennie alone is bff's with like 5 people that are always with the kardashians and several rappers. They all get invited to events with celebs if they have brand deals s.m just rarely posts it, so it's like it doesn't happen. People also assume they can't speak english and just stand in the corner which in most cases is not true, every korean person learns english in school. If they went to school and graduated they understand at least basic level english.
She is also close friends with Dua Lipa and has been for years. And Dua had Kai rep her collab in 2022
It was an extremely private party and there's only a few photos, of course he didn't post any. That's just how s.m is they will fly someone to an event and there's no evidence of them being their unless the media and fans decide to promote it. They do the bare minimum which is usually nothing.
Back to Jennithea who is usually very busy with her socializing has so many Kdash connections it's insane. Along with various music connections, I would have to make a seperate post.
On top of going to their halloween party a few years ago, like they all know one another outside of just one and done events. Hollywood is very small. What people think super m was doing in hollywood for a week, staring at the wall? Kai was in LA even before that for personal reasons.
Arden Cho even went to one of Exo's last concerts in 2023, but did s.m put that in any social media posts or post a video publicly so it could get attention?
She's apparently a supporter, would probably love to do something to bridge the Korean and American Gap, but no they only wait until a big American label tells them to do something, they don't want to make proper connections or show off any ties to anything western if they can avoid it
Arden is an amazing actress, I can imagine what they could do if they showed more love and support to their Korean American Hollywood community publicly, all the fun things they could accomplish. It could really ease the gap between just feeling like they need to speak english and completely conform to America's standards. Imagine a reality show where they go visit Korea town and meet with community leaders. It's just sad, they are so focused with their fake artificial image they can't grow.
The literal only difference is some tell the truth and others hide is due to marketing, YG leverages appearances with celebs but S.M hides it because it does not fit their persona. When people leave S.m magically they stop caring about the stupid politics which doesn't help them anyway.
They all know other celebs, they talk, they go to parties, they hookup, they breakup etc etc etc. People are so ridiculous thinking the infantile baby thing is real, it's a complete act for most of them. Also most of the kdash clique know justin who's friendly with everybody.
Literally everybody
And Justin's bff knows kpop idols at least one,
and she knows Momo who knows
and wasn't Conan in Korea and literally went to the s.m building and got shown around by Key
Aw, look at Key trying to get Conan into an innocent halfu Japanese boy into a slave contract how sweet!!!
90 percent sure they just took his dna to make more nct clones....
anyway
Like these people be clicked up. It isn't like after the cameras are done rolling they all never see one another again. The padding squad is such a joke, people actually believe those are his only friends it's so sad. That's a company marketing tool to get people to watch their god awful variety and reality shows they made for all of them. Why else where they always on kbs saying omg we don't know anyone else, we only are friends with our group members, company staff and a few tiny bit of people and then we go back in our company boxes until it's time to film the next comeback, like get real.
I make stuff like this cause at first I thought nobody knew, but in reality nobody really wants to talk about it which leads to others who don't research on their own completely lost cause how can they piece old info with new info, plus all the fake stuff that's online.
In conclusion stop being closed minded and stop infantilizing asian people. Good day. In the future if I reference a kpop person and connect them to an american celeb it's much more possible than you think. That's why I was so confused why people talked about Jb like kji would hate him or something.
Like really, "listens to explicit young thug and bryson tiller songs on full blast in public Kim Jongin" would hate bizzle team lightskin for the win Justin Bieber? Are you sure?
They couldn't possibly know one another.....are you sure? Kji and Hailey have been at the same events countless times and had the same sponsorships. The worlds that could never connect before because oh no, kpop idols are too lowly, the worlds are connected. They are compete for and get the same opportunities now.
Hollywood is extremely small as I just showed, and it's not hard to get in touch with instagram. Plus half these people go to the same parties, so I'm really not getting how it's so impossible? Like I'm sorry if a grown man says a year before that he wants to get a meaningful tattoo but is too scared of the pain, then a year later gets temporary tattoo's and puts the same exact tattoo and similar tattoos as another dude he used to look up to, and it's in the same place and he shows it off with pride both onstage and shoves it in the camera after the concert on ig live.
This was after he did a super long live talking about his childhood, and how much he wanted to learn english and visit america.
The sad part is how this is available for people to find, yet instead people would rather pretend you're crazy for mentioning things people would rather not talk about.
Then a couple years later does the same title track on his album as the other dude on the same year months apart. And yes on knowing bro's he said he was very much aware of Justin's song. He even said what month it came out. Like if he is so whatever about him why keep up with the exact month? Then in the behind the scenes for the peaches music video they were playing Stay by Kid Laori and JB. Which was a collab they did later in that 2021.
There's so much there but people so small minded and ignorant. Like the bullying random celebs cause it's fun atm and everyone is dogpiling on them is so lame. Especially if its getting in the way of you making clear as day connections. People so blinded by hate they can't see anything else.
The reason it makes me so mad, isn't cause people don't just buy into some random idea that I had, I didn't want this to be true, it's just I happened to be curious and dig and find that they most likely are friends or in the same circle. Sad how bp fans are supportive of their favorite artists having friends in other non kpop circles but some just bully and laugh at the idea. It's very racist and isolationist and very sad. Imagine how they would feel separating themselves from everyone to keep fans happy. Sadly even more people keep feeding into this idea making it more popular. They are grown people, keeping them from enjoying life and meeting people is only going to make them resent and HATE their jobs, fans and company.
Jb actually is surprisingly very nice, and has lots of friends in and out of america, the only reason I can think why cl or others would be comfortable posting or talking about him but a male idol wouldn't is because of those stupid clauses where they have to always be perfect and around other perfect people. They turn down many collabs for that reason. Exo didn't go to Coachella literally for that reason. If they were caught looking at a model or another artist with heart eyes, their fans would go insane, but not really they would just catch temper tantrums online cause they aren't behaving like a doll.
Anyway I look forward for more of the veil dropping, this separation stuff is so dumb, no grown adults should have to hide knowing one another for fear of scolding. A major wakeup call is needed. They aren't cartoon characters they are flesh and blood. A fan or an artist is not God. They are people. They are equal. They can't tell you what to do and you can't tell them what to do either.
Like if they don't know one another then that's just plain weird I'm sorry.
I've never done an album analysis before an album
like what if I'm wrong...but what is I'm right tho
Anyway I always thought a feature for a future album could definitely happen but it would have to be a foreign artist..wouldn't it?
Idk.
But anyway I really think it's going to be more symbolic than literal, the reality it the amount of spiritual messages in albums is paramount, so it's really what the focus is supposed to be on.
Bathtubs
the last album was about reality swapping and the fallen angel symbology was heavy in peaches but it was undercurrent. So if the main theme is water this time it's probably going to have more to do with the properties of water, such as how space and time and fluid.
he usually models his work after female black artists so if I look at some of their similar projects it should align at least a little bit.
But he also loves white male old hollywood and "imitated" elvis in his last album
which explains the black and blonde cause elvis was a natural blonde who dyed his hair black.
I think this is a remake? or inspired by one of elvis's actual suits
also the barber shop thing was really subtle
Like they do all these little things but if an interviewer ever asked them about it they'd be like huh what who?
He loved barber shops and doing his hair he couldn't leave it alone.
also elvis' military haircut was documented as well so I'm wondering if mimicking that was a joke? were they trynna be funny?
Did he get too into character again?
But if I had to guess, he wouldn't do the same thing twice back to back.
Hmm...thailand, water, pseudo spiritual, rnb and reggae again....
I'm going with a baby boy type island theme maybe a bit of survior.
also he's been trying to show his bellydancing off for years but the choreo and the music has never really called for it.
I think it's gonna be like a temple theme but probably similar to the mhmm kind of vibe but when he was in the white temple them. I think that's what I'm locking in. Usually I don't do this but I've been pleasantly surprised by the fact that they actually listened to feedback and he stopped dancing to corny kpop challenges cause it just wasn't working. So I think they are able to cut waste and bad ideals better and also work to their strengths and this is his strength to be honest.
Okay this was fun if I'm completely wrong oh well
But I think I'm right.
possible spoiler alert ig idk
So like I think it's not made yet they must be creating the concept and finishing the details rn, cause otherwise they wouldn't be doing all this obvious stuff. So since we still got time left here's some themes I want to be in the album
Siren vibes, but they can also add in beach vibes as well like tropical
there can be a reverse little mermaid story for the shortfilm
orr more aqua marine upbeat vibes
or like a fusion and make it sci fi
Honestly idk I have a bunch of theories cause it can also be more like beyonce's photoshoot
I just think they should go more indie and artsy and leave out the huge dance numbers that don't fit
What if the album cover is like 2005 blue crush vibes
I think the mv can be filmed more scenic
I have this huge marine spirit theory I made but it's like..eh nobody even knows what that is. Apparently people think it's all based off of some freaking manga. When that's total b.s mermaid legends exist globally I highly doubt over a literal decade of water symbology since his DEBUT, is based off a manga, please. Specifically in africa, I would like to just post all my theories but I don't really want to. But I would love to tie in the south american catholic symbolism in rover, cause there's so much, and it honestly goes perfectly with this beach theme, but I really don't have anything to prove so.
There is also pirates of the caribbean influence in peaches and years ago he said that was his favorite movie and they had mermaids in one film.
At the same times there's also a lot of atlantis references in peaches so I'm curious if it will be a red herring or it will actually tie into the mythos. Because in rover and mhmm he was in a dry desert but there were hints of him being locked in some type of water tank? in mhmm. But that could be a reference to them using him as a power source because water is a conductor. Idc what the internet says oceanic water has lots of salt and can respond to electricity. Also lightning in the sky is possible due to clouds. It's science somewhere in there, the ions and water and air creates energy.
Again it's still dealing with the four elements and creation energy so they are almost treating him like the creator deities in ancient egypt.
Though I am interested in how they are going to pull off the siren theme because mermen aren't usually seen in the media.
Although he's had the symbolism for years.
But I would love to at least get a legit analysis out before the album. I was supposed to do one years ago but it's like idk how people would react to it.
his teasers were more or less based off the four elements well five including the ether and /or electricity.
But water and sea life was the most prominent symbol for him and it's seen in almost every project that he has
in reality he's mostly portraying a creation god which is why he's in so many teasers and the others are usually in the teasers with him. His time stopping powers begin from debut also.
So it's clear he's a primordial diety not a simple one. Which is why in rover he kept switching identities because they recreate themselves over and over again.
Honestly I think their was so much attention on him having so many teasers no one actually considered that there was an actual purpose behind them or the exo mythos. Due to the fact that a majority of the concepts became intertwined with so many pop cultural moments at the time. Particularly when they began reenacting twilight and it was seen as cringe, I think the mythos became a running gag rather than something people actually paid attention to. Also there's so many cross references with other pop cultural works in kji's albums and things they were trying to recreate it got all muddled up so now people don't tie things together.
Like after peaches era they took a break and let him perform and tour. They still were continuing the mythos. There was tons of little easter eggs. I don't think I was psychic when I kept predicting what his next album was going to be it's just common sense. They always made sure his projects lined up with one another. They just also cover it up with so much drama and mess most people forget about it cause it "doesn't matter" the gossip matters even though it disappears after like few months.
Andante 2017 he had a love interest named Bom
Bom in Korean means spring
He volunteers at a hospice and frequently gets involved in their lives. He becomes emotionally attached to them and fixes varies issues for other people. In the show he acts like a guardian angel of sorts.
In the end of the show Bom "dies" of a brain disease but he still imagines her as being there.
2017
Kokobop
In the music video he has a tattoo of an angel on his neck
January 13, 2018
He was in a drama called spring has come
The female main character was called Naoko which in japanese means
In the show Naoko was innocent and easily tricked by Jiwon and was deceived by his charming and innocent appearance, frequently helping him out and loaning him money in hopes of him creating a life with her. She did all of it in hopes that he would marry her, but emotionally he was traumatized by his mother trying to murder him.
The show is a metaphor for death and birth shown by the visualizations of marriage and intimacy. Spring representing rebirth and creation.
Jiwon acted as the director of the family and was able to "fix them" and make them perfect just like he does his subject in the first episode.
Due to his interference the family goes from disgruntled to happy. Although his motives remain unknown.
April 2, 2018
he played an angel in miracle that we met that accidentally takes the wrong life and must try to fix the situation. It's a mix of guardian angel/ greek gods messing with the affairs of humans. He tries to reunite the original husband and wife but can't. Throughout the show he tries to make it up to her and they develop and emotional bond.
It reminds me of the concept of the film the preacher's wife where dudly is supposed to be helping the married couple but ends up falling for the wife himself. To be fair he only began getting entangled with the wife after the husband abandoned her but still
I do find it interesting that most gifs are of him and the female character that he dances with at the end of the show, but that "female character" is actually his male shapeshifting boss Mao and there was no romance there. I believe they are actually spiritual brothers.
The only "romance" or emotional subplot he had on the show is with the wife character
But I think cause of the age gap it went over people's head, even though his character is most likely older than her but whatever.
I think people don't understand subtlety in romance drama's like he picked out her clothes it's kinda obvious.
This angel who doesn't follow instructions character also coincidentally would align with his rover symbolism where he "played" a fallen angel.
It's especially interesting because Mao was known as the one with 10,000 faces or identities
the writing on the portal is also not korean, I couldn't find out exactly but it looks thai or arabic or based off that type of script? Enochian? Idk
It's almost like they like maybe pushed to get him roles that tied into the exo mythos. They apparently have a binder all the way from the 80s or 90s from lsm.
In the show the kids who encountered Ato and saw his powers in person join a forum called miracle that we met, which is where the title of the show comes from. The forum is a place where people trade stories about seeing supernatural beings like angels and aliens.
One of the kids in the show theorized that Ato was just a model that nasa had created--- some type of a.r model characters to roam around the earth and mess with people. Which is really interesting cause at the time nobody really knew about that. This came out after the space force began to publicize more information about their projects.
But this show was in 2018...interesting.
Even more interesting is that Kai had an Augmented reality type concert film.
Like they're getting a little too sloppy. So I'm pretty sure I can figure out the theme or at least I can try.
end of pt 1
A few days ago I saw comments on x about kai's new comeback and people being excited and shaming others for thinking he could of used like a few weeks off maybe. I'm neither here nor there, personally I don't think it's a good idea how they overpromote him for no reason, cause a successful over promotion is like with the bp girls. A show, a movie plus a concert or something. That's a good type of overpromotion, not sleeping to do a hour live WHILE YOU'RE CLEARLY SICK. Sniffling and covering a cough the whole time like what was the reason. He's not a newbie, and saying he'll work like an animal, like a slavedrive animal, like that's cute to you? I already said he was the group's workhorse and it's true but it wasn't a compliment, he literally works to the bone for that group. That's a majority of his life for a boyband, a boybrand.
He has an amazing work ethic, but he's doing it at the wrong company, I can see doing that for a nice company but its sm even he knows it's crappy. They aren't even in their afterglow phase their being shuffled out by the entertainment industry slowly but surely. So him breaking his back for that isn't loyalty it's silly.
"I guess it looks like overwork to you"
Argh company fans are so annoying it's clear when they work for the company cause who else would say something so foolish. He already says he's a workaholic, he already said he gets sick at times. He's grown he can do whatever he wants but don't say people don't know what hard work is if they think hey maybe someone working a job for almost 2 years straight and doing basic training just might need five minutes to get himself together. Like at least mentally there's nothing wrong with someone getting themselves together as a person then going back to doing their other job, it's like a basic human right. That's my problem with sm unpaid employee's they do not understand that they do not care about these people. The little bit of attention they give them is fleeting, they are basically working to pay for their future replacements, after all this is over. When the show is done they are still a person who has to live with the state of their body, THEIR BODY. Not your body or a fanclub's body, their own vessel.
Nobody want to end up disabled or hurt because of a few fleeting years of fame, it's a humanistic thing to be like dang hopefully this person can heal and see a therapist before going into the spotlight again. Cause guess what if anything happens people can and will just move on. But there's nothing the person can do about it.
I would much rather someone be in a healthy state making art than a terrible one.
I like art, I love it but someone having ...issues and then putting their career first especially when the money isn't absolutely a necessity. It's ridiculous, what will anyone do if the person gets sick, if their body turns on them, nothing, not a damn thing. I'll write about the album, but I'll do it in my own way. I refuse to just pretend everything is peachy keen cause that just isn't me. I really don't get how people can't be mature about this type of thing, like yes, he's a good artist and his work is interesting. But the way he and his company is going about it is lazy and unorganized, and it's leading him to do multiple schedules in the same day for quite literally no reason at all. He did the same thing when he was about to leave for the military. The scheduling quite literally doesn't make sense.
For example, why wait until late at night to die his hair right after a live, what's the point of that, if he could of easily just did it in the morning. Even when they were overlapping filming and he was dying his hair and he was going back and forth between bleaching and dying it on the same day, to do different shoots. It was confusing cause it's clear he was literally damaging his hair, but that's more the fault of the s.m stylist from what I understand some had to take certification tests multiple times because they kept failing, and some may simply just be former s.m staff members who were encouraged to become stylists. I've never seen a liscenced stylist do what these people do. Even in the hood, they would of gotten their verification revoked and they'd of been reported. Some s.m artists have serious scalp damage and they even complain about it, but the stylist threw them under the bus and he said its basically his clients fault that their hair is damaged because they wanted lots of colors.
I have never EVER heard a stylist blame a customer for them doing a bad dye job, there are people who change hair colors every week and that do not suffer from that.
I never have issues with staff, while watching shows like bad girls club and other reality shows I was shocked that the stylists were not only professional, but always did such a good job on sudden dyes, alternating hairstyles to give the scalp a break and fixing random issues. S.m cannot have trained these people. Personally, that person who's the main stylist he ...something about him, I noticed so many things, but like the most important thing is the hair wtf are you doing to these people's hair. That is like messing up someone's skin, are you crazy? If someone has a damaged scalp that can be messed up for life. I will probably personally make a detailed analysis, on the awful nature of hair care in the south korean pop industry. If most weren't in trainee debt they would of sued these people. It holds a special place in my heart because I know how painful it is for something traumatic to happen to your hair. It's something people rarely think about, but that can harm people's health and self esteem. A professional has to be held to higher standards and to be so lazy about the thin layer of skin that is connected to someone's brain is crazy.
But in s.m it's clear they refuse to take accountability no matter what the issue. Also as the stylist it's there job to make the call about what is best for the client, sometimes wigs are necessary. Lace fronts exist, extensions exist, but the common scalp damage in the kpop industry is not necessary. It's do to schedules piled on top of one another that aren't properly organized.
It's there is a way to take care of hair under stress they just do not know how to do it. It's really sad and I think it could be a whole talking piece just by itself, it's insane to do this to people. I want to reitirate that there are people who have been able to keep their hair dyed for long periods of time and it's not badly damaged, or they have terrible scalp issues. In kpop not only is it not an issue, but it's almost like a joke. With even these stylists saying at least they still have hair and they should be bald.
Do these people even go to a proper school? No bleaching doesn't make you bald, but it does weaken your folicles, what's happening is they are putting little to no protection at all on these people's hair. They quickly bleach it and then quickly put various dyes on it.
I go into so much detail, because this is just one instance of how they want to rush rush rush. Nothing is given anytime. They quickly need the hair to change, because "hurry we just did this live, and now we need to film a video online and then we will change it again cause it has to be a secret"
Are they seven years old? Nobody cares about a stupid hair color that much to rush and sneak around like that, especially if the person could literally lose their hair. It's so childish and goofy.
They rush on everything which is why they always have a subpar result. Kji was disappointed with peaches, and I didn't want to say anything or be rude, but it's because although they had 2 years it was still rushed. How does something you work on for two years become rushed?
Filming for one music video can definitely be about a week, but for s.m it seems like a day. Even exo growl was one take and for what. Could they not do it again, they even have kji dropping his hat and picking it back up, like why?
That isn't normal, but do you know why they do that? The only reason I can think of is that they don't want to pay their staff for multiple days at a time so it's easier to pay them for one day's of very busy work than paying them for multiple days of a regular work schedule. That is, I assume why they were filming Mhmm in the cold middle of the night in a garage, instead of waiting until there was better weather conditioning.
The whole company is very disorganized, I have many issues with how they do many thing, but the sole root of the problem is that they don't have a proper organization system in place to help put schedules in a proper order. This is why they have frequent visa troubles, and leaking hair dye during concerts, and members confused about recent choreography changes while on stage.
I think a few groups have a good organized and loyal team, and some groups have teams straight from the pits of hell. Why that is probably varies, but exo has one of the worst teams out there. The amount of things I've read is almost comedic. The team was always a mess, from the managers from the stylist. A huge problem is getting a huge team to match having 12 members, the only issues is they no longer have 12 members, why do they still have a huge team. That leads to multiple people doing the same job that one person can do.
The current mode of promotion seems to be blitzkrieg style, just have a bunch of random stuff happen to get fans talking and then promote something, come out with an album whatever. The thing is behind that is hiding a grueling schedule of work where the job is never ending. There's always something. Go to this concert late at night even if you're in the f#cking military and have a tiny window of a break, it'll go viral and we can use that as leverage for more investments.
But when they are not in the military and have an empty schedule they can't even manage a youtube properly. They deleted most of the footage kji recorded. So instead of just uploading a bunch of his videos he wanted to be on his youtube, oh no just go ghost and then we can have staff stalk you everywhere so fans can go crazy over it cause they have nothing else to pay attention to. These people really get on my nerves, they steal everything from japan except the actual good ideals.
Idol culture is DEAD,
just promote them like normal celebrities and public figures, let them travel, stop cultivating everything and scripting everything they do. It's lame. Just let them be themselves and film content when they feel like it instead of keeping them hidden until it's time to sell something. This is common sense or should be, but who wants to buy something from someone they know literally nothing about.
They are ghost for ages and then are overexposed when it's time to sell something. Like they can't change their business model even when it's clearly dying, s.m 3.0 is a complete failure and it's because the people doing their jobs aren't properly trained. Tons of people left and now a bunch of ai models are probably planning their schedules.
They didn't pay their staff so they lost so many of them who were actually useful,
I feel like avex may end up buying out their contract because s.m is clearly lost on what to do with them.
Even when it comes to sm towns. They don't even know who will show up, why are artists texting on bubble that they are confused on why their names are up their when they already said they weren't going. Was s.m going to lie and say an artist was going to be there, when they knew they weren't coming to get ticket sales up, only to then blame the artist for not showing up. Did they plan on doing the same thing with kji. Why do they keep baiting fans that they will have a full comeback when the members are not saying the same thing. Why did the members say on live that kji was going to be at the next smtown, but then on the poster he wasn't there. Now they are updating the list?
Why must they update the list when this should be planned out months in advanced. It isn't illegal to arrange for plans for work once you get out the military. They are trying to tease fans that he will be doing a solo concert, but refuse to confirm a solo concert why?
I believe it's because they plan on creating a ruckus where people hurry to buy tickets and they don't have time to plan, so they waste money on whatever they can find. Super m concert's were well organized, at least in comparison but that wasn't there money they were playing with it was Capital Records. So they do know how to do their jobs but only with the threat of a class action lawsuit.
(Long introduction for context)
This one is so old. I did research on this, like, around the time peaches came out. I have way too many notes; some I deleted, and only God knows where they are now. I’m not spending a whole day looking for them, and I need something to focus my attention on that makes my brain cells work. So I’m going off the dome. It’s actually better when I do that because I do active research instead of looking at old notes, and I can find new info.
So what is the theory? Well, long story short, I had a theory that Kai of EXO was actually a character, which he is technically; all celebs are. They are named by their company, given a backstory, a personality, and Exo even had ‘powers.’. Like, babe, that’s a character, obvi. In this train of thought, a character has to be played by a real person. We are given that much information by the company. The actor playing the character Kai of Exo is Kim Jongin. Story over... right? Well, maybe so, but that’s not how my brain works.
Backstory to this. I actually wasn’t always an inquisitive person. I years ago was actually pretty dull. I spent most of my time worrying about grades, being a good kid, and, I don't know, iCarly, Victorious, and memes. But then I found K-pop; I was super curious about everything because it was so new to me. I had to learn everything I could. This was easy because I liked world history and learning about different cultures and stuff. I think Growl was the first mv I saw. I wasn’t too familiar with K-pop, but I did know it existed, vaguely. To be honest, it was just something taking up my time. I was just monitoring it and watching, learning names. It was during the One Direction era.
(historical context)
One direction the boys that walked so boybands could rise again. People talk bad about them but forget they single-handedly made boybands cool again. There were others, but the impact wasn’t the same. 1D was the blueprint of the up-and-coming boy bands that would later try and break into the American market. They cracked the code. They were parent-friendly but sensual enough to keep the tweens/teens/young adults crushing on them. Fanfiction culture was also impacted. Many forget it was a Harry Styles fanfic that made fanfic normal and somehow socially acceptable enough to come out of the shadows of fandom and be something talked about in media/out in the open. (moral of the story: don’t do them—slander won’t be tolerated)
Anyway, I was familiar with boy band fandom, the shipping, fan service, the weird pandering, etc. The only differences for me were the dancing, the odd music style, and the language. It took some time getting used to. It was so hard getting used to the cultural differences and the style of talking. The odd monologuing/sarcastic banter that’s borderline rude. It was hard to tell when people were being funny or cruel. I still have trouble with that, but years later I realize it’s cultural, but you can tell where people are coming from by their tone.
I say all this to say it was difficult adjusting. I was interested in the group and wanted to know as much about them as possible, BUT I spent so much time trying to learn everything I could, and by the time I became completely accustomed to the behavior and culture and language, I realized I didn’t even like the group that much. The music was good; at the time, the members were okay; sometimes they were funny—but not all the time. Overall, by the 2nd year of being into K-pop, I was like
IDK—it’s probably just me, but all the drama, gossip, and people caring that grown adults were dating... Like it was so odd because I grew up on J-14.
Going from everybody being super chill about their fave dating, getting married, or having babies to this
Grown adults getting in trouble with their fans... for what? Like it was just weird, and due to hive mentality, I was like coming into agreement with it and thinking, Oh, that’s just how things are over there... like, no." It’s not right. Just so many things were weird, but I said nothing because I didn’t want to be the odd one out.
Cause don’t get me wrong, everybody watches E! news and celeb gossip, and that’s not our business either, but that’s out in the open; that that’s people telling you this is my person, and I am dating them. Yeah, sure, some of it is fake, but it’s openly fake. This is odd because even though these dispatch couples were revealed, they don’t go places together or do interviews talking about one another. There’s a layer of shame because idols are dolls who are ‘dating’ their fans.
Now I won’t judge; all I’ll say is I got a lot of evidence suggesting this is gonna lead to an AI pixel perfect.
turned horror movie;
(mobile boyfriend 2009)
where there are apps where you can see, talk to, and text an AI version of your favorite idol
where you can have a fake version of your idol in your phone, but plot twist: it's a demon... Anyway, I’m getting off track; that’s another thread. The point is stuff was getting weird; I was slowly backing away and just distancing myself, but a few things were keeping me from dropping K-pop and just focusing on school and other stuff. One, like many women, once you invest emotionally into something, it’s hard to leave; two, I was a tad bit concerned about Kai; he was injured around that time.
and I felt bad about dropping the group because usually when I drop something, it’s for good. I may check up on it out of curiosity, but I will never care (like really care) ever again. So I was teetering.
Eventually I just gave up and decided my mental health and having my head on straight was better than being in a cult.
Long story short, around 2021ish I was like, What’s been going on?" I just went on a journey and became more aware, so somehow I came back to K-pop. To make a long story short.
So when I saw Kai’s face for the first time in a long time, I didn’t really notice anything too different. Slightly, but I thought maybe it was just aging, plastic surgery, fillers; I really didn’t know, but something was off.
So I started looking at his photos, and at this point he had released a lot of his old childhood photos. And again it wasn’t too drastic, but I’m not normal; I was looking hard.
Now, a disclaimer: this isn’t proof of anything; it’s just stuff I notice. I talk a lot, but it’s just brain ideas coming out to breathe. It’s more so just to make people see a different perspective. Use your creativity. Life is as interesting as you make it.
So when I started looking at the photos, I first paid attention to the thing that, if different, couldn’t be a coincidence; there’s no way these body parts can just change over time or with p.s. That means the face can be used but only sort of. Plastic surgery can change a lot, but upkeep changes more than the initial surgery. No surgery equals perfection, and after the surgery, minor surgeries afterwards are necessary. So it’s necessary to look at childhood photos to understand the initial facial structure (which can change but only so much); they more so develop or morph, elongate, etc., but only so much. I’d say like 90 percent of the time, most people can recognize someone from child to adult by the small features: the way they smile, or the way their teeth look, or their ears, or their eye shape. Plastic surgery is... it’s a thing, but as long as it’s not total facial reconstruction, it’s a nonfactor. You can usually tell what’s unnatural by looking at childhood photos.
Anyway, I looked and looked and looked, and I don’t know for sure now because it’s been a while since I’ve even considered this, but I trust my notes, and I remember I took a lot of notes, and it is one of the only theories I’ve given my golden stamp of approval. This is why I’m talking so much in the buildup. This isn’t some joke. I’m not saying it’s true, but I did work hard on it. If I could find my old notes, I’d copy and paste it, but it’d take me all day to look for it.
Okay. The theory. Twins.
Ahh, okay, I’m kinda excited it’s been so long. Okay. So I think what I thought was that it was a pair of fraternal twins. The reason why I said fraternal and identical is in theory if this is two people pretending to be one person...they don’t even look that much alike. They feature one another a lot but it’s not mirror twins which is odd because you’d think if an entertainment company was to pull one over and have a pair of twins play a single person they’d go for a parent trap deal
Theoretically, I thought maybe it was more of a Mary-kay and Ashley type of situation
who are not identical; they are fraternal. They just look extremely alike. How do people tell them apart? Well, now they look different because of different external stimuli that have an affect on appearance, but back when they used to look more alike, just watching their movies year after year it’s quite clear do to vocal tone, mannerisms, and behavior that they are two different people. It simply takes observation.
I have to sadly make a list because it’ll be too unorganized otherwise.
First I’ll put physical characteristics that are definite and most consistent. Meaning you can see the physical traits in childhood, adolescence, and adulthood.
Uneven ears:
Baby—toddler
Childhood / adolescence
Adulthood
Now adulthood is very tricky because the adult bone structure set in at around 16-18, and the cheekbone and skull make the ears appear small when really they are probably normal-sized; he just has a big head. So I’m just going to show the ears, both left and right, at an angle because it’s pretty much impossible to see them when he’s staring straight ahead. P.S. I don’t know what’s digitally edited or not, so I prefer candid pics, but it’s not good quality to see the details of the ear, so... it’s so-so. But ear prints, like fingerprints, may be similar for identical twins, but they’re not identical.
To be continued.
Inspired by a genius post I saw on twt iykyk, I didn't wanna bother them they seemed stressed.
topic: Is Kai promoting in English and doing Western promotion activities pandering for Western validation?
(because he clearly never pandered to anyone before ever in the history of ever...it never happened... seriously. I don't believe he knows what pandering is actually.)
Simple Fact: TECHNICALLY..yes
Question: Is that a bad thing?
Opinion: It depends
Clarification : By western do you mean American? And by pandering do you actually mean worshipping Eurocentricity and it's machine of capitalism? That is a slippery topic, technically most kpop idols, such as Kai, are already modeling for European brands and not Asian or African etc. Plus they have fans constantly brag about said sponsorships that they do. Plus South Koreans and far east asians are top consumers of european luxury brands
so anti colonialism is an odd arguement to stand behind with a kpop pfp but okay.
Opinion: Look, If you have a precise plan and goal for promoting in America, creating a better bond with foreign audiences, expressing creativity, working with more diverse creatives, and touring in multiple different states and/or countries, solidify the artist's place in the realm of popular music while having a more freeing time doing it... I don't get the problem with an artist like Kai promoting in America. It cannot intensify the issue of Kpop artists seeming like they are pandering to the euro-colonial powers, because it's already looking pretty bad tbh.
The real issue: Freedom. The reality is when someone dynamic, attractive, and full of life has freedom, obviously they are going to meet new people, make friends, and develop in personality. The real issue is whether fans who have had an artist as a cute little toy for years.
Are they ready to find out what his real personality is when he is given freedom. The reality is that despite dating clauses not technically existing after a few years post-debut, people do not actually expect them to talk about crushes, who they find attractive, or publicly state their attraction towards someone. Personally, I believe what K-pop fans expect, which is virtual silence except when being cute, charming, funny, or flirtatious and/or childlike asexual behavior, except if it is for audience consumption, this teeters on a slave owner mindset and is very gross. A person who calls themself a K-pop idol cannot publicly date like a regular artist.
I mean, they can, but not in a traditional way. Kai and Krystal technically dated for 2 years, and they couldn't mention one another's name publicly during that entire time.
They didn't even go near one another in public after it was revealed not even at smtown's. But at least people had a magazine shoot as proof they even knew one another.
Jennie and Kai weren't event at the same event since the dating scandal happened years ago, not an award show, or any other public event. If anything a dating scandal just means the person will enter a crackdown and be forced to be more present with fans to make up for what they lost.
It is extremely normalized in Korean culture that males and females try not to even make eye contact lest it be thought of that they did something.
For this reason it's incredibly easy for fans to say it is nonexistent. This is a pretty good summary of what happened.
The accepted narrative anyway. Sadly to combat the 'negative press' of dating publicly, fans go harder on the shipping, the overs#xualization, and the unfunny jokes to move the conversation away from their dating news. Taking the fandom further and further away from reality.
Yet, at the same time since people don't see 99 percent of the artist they obsess over's life and the entire 1 percent is scripted, they don't know how these people truly act or behave, or really anything about them. So to overcompensate other parts of their personality and minor things are overblown and hyperfocused on. Praise and worship take the place of actual critical thought.
Regardless of the opinion of whether it matters to every individual supporter or not, it still had actual effects on his career. To this day his support is stronger overseas. I believe this is in conjunction to the 2 dating scandals and his appearance. Which is a whole nother thing, but with this in mind a western audience, especially one that is less likely to bash for a simple dating scandal would be a smart choice.
To the people who have a don't ask don't tell policy when it comes to artists, but just don't want the artists to date publicly to protect them, what do they know, do they even look into the analysis how when properly leveraged a relationship could be good for business and not bad. I hesitate to believe fans whenever they say they don't care if their fave dates or not anyway. Like of course you don't care, because they will continue to play their role of a perfect idol content with fanservice.
I would say it's fine, but it really isn't, even in japan idol culture there is room for growth and evolution inside the mold. They gradually moved their idol culture over to the acting scene so now the youth are somewhat used to seeing public figures dating openly, it may be a surprise but I wouldn't classify it as a scandal.
Personally, I believe if they can push kpop idols towards acting and movies, then similar to japan it wouldn't become this crazy thing and artists can be young and married without it being a frenzy.
(p.s weloveyoukento) It's not exactly perfect but it is changing for the better.
In japan the mold is forever being molded and shifted to where it needs to be, whereas in kpop it seems to be stuck in stasis with the conveyer belt model continuing.
With the art clearly showing what fans deny, that each idol group is contained and perfected to the fans whims and desires.
Understandably people want privacy in relationships, but the privacy is mostly due to their careers being built on the whims of the fans.
To be fair all boy bands historically have done this. Whether that means wearing outfits that only teen girls like, or dancing uniformly to upbeat tunes for hours on end. It isn't just kpop that stretched people to the limit and covered up their originality.
Regardless of the location, race, or culture/ethnicity of said boy band this was all true, but in Kpop there is a specific desire to control the entire person as a product and as a human and this is something the fans are willing to ignore to recieve whatever fanservice they want.
Nobody cares who their local restaraunt owner or store employee dates, because they don't go to the store for them they go for the product, BUT in K-pop the artists are the product, the emotional relationship with fans is apart of the deal. Therefore they feel almost a sense of surrealness when thinking about them in a public relationship. Personally, I believe even western people struggle with having an odd fascination with who a person does or does not date, but again this is because people craft an image that makes it unbelivable if they go against it.
Whether it's a fake relationship or a real one, the point is that with either you would expect something like a conversation or a small mention during an interview, but typically Kpop stars are not allowed to do such a thing, ever. That is just how it is in K-pop. Whether the fans are native Korean or foreigner fans, much of the same behavior is expected. No one can say they have seen an artist's real personality. It isn't possible. Nearly everything is scripted.
In some cases, like Taemin's, they didn't even know their actual personalities.
They can go out and do things for fun, but it is expected that whatever they do not be noticeable to fans. Everything is expected to be hidden or undercover to be respectful of the fans. Because the artists are firstly marketed as boyfriends and girlfriends for the fans. Regardless of how it is spun, this is the marketing promotion; otherwise, suggestive music videos wouldn't really be necessary, nor would high-five events of ...fansigns.
I don't want to act like K-pop invented this.
It did not
or pretend that it is even the most extreme version of marketing love to strangers out of an exotic curiosity;
because it isn't. This has been happening for ages, but I will say that kpop has this unique hold where evolution doesn't exist. Since the 1990s I think kpop has gone backwards, before it was normal for idols girlfriends to leave the performance venues with them.
Now if a girlfriend posts something on her social that even implies they are together it is cause for fans to burn merch and say rude and innapropriate things online out of vendicated anger.
Even having a boyfriend or close male friend can invoke the ire of fans who have crafted an idol's desires to their imaginations, even if they themselves have no interest in them.
So if they do something unexpected like date a man, even though they "hate men" people have full blown meltdowns and delete their accounts out of embarrassment.
I've seen it happen to so many people. They refuse to accept a possibility and when it happens they loose it.
I know that people have sensitivities about Kpop people becoming more free, and honestly I think it's for the best. I do not think people want the ownership that fans feel to grow even more. They need more open and honest interviews, less objectfication and more laying out the facts instead of fans being so bored they hyperfixate on fake gossip to the point of it being more real than reality.
But no seriously all jokes aside, please somebody explain to Kai what pandering to an audience means. Doing things specifically to appeal to others whims and desires that you as a grown adult person probably don't want to do, but you must because of dinero, guap or cash money. Cause clearly he is just a giant stuffed animal and he has no ideal how it works, how anything at all works actually, he just dresses like this on stage because..I mean like what else would he wear, duh! How could he be expected to pander to the euro-colonial-objectifying axis of evil...
He's like..never even done that before....
sigh I need to get back into my weird theory bag this blog seems like it belongs to a normal person