Team Iron Man - Blog Posts

Team Cap is for the righteous ones that have strong morals and won't let anything change that, no matter what.

Team Ironman is for the cool kids.

And then there's the Revengers. They're just a group of mentally ill homosexuals...

I feel like something not a lot of people consider when talking about Captain America civil war is that both sides were wrong and right in a way. That's what I feel like, but I can also understand the Captain america sides and the Tony stark sides

Pepper : Who the fuck broke the toaster?

Rhodey : It was Tony.

Happy : Boss broke it.

Jarvis : Sir did it.

Tony :

Tony : ...yOU PROMISED-

Tony bleeding out after fighting bad guys : Is he staring at me?

Rhodey trying to stop the bleeding : Of course he’s staring at you, you’re bleeding out.

Tony : But is he staring at me in an "ahh he’s bleeding out!" Or "ahh he looks so hot when he’s bleeding out!" way?

Rhodey no longer putting pressure on the wound to stare at Tony blankly :

Rhodey : What.

Pepper : He’s staring at you in an "ahh he’s bleeding out!" type of way. Why would he think it’s hot?!

Stephen staring at Tony in a "ahh he’s looks so hot when he’s bleeding out!" way : I mean...

Wong : For fuck sake!

alt diologue

“couldn’t have the decency to let me die in space this time, hm? not when i could still have clues for you. not when i could finally be done- oh, you’re going to make a great director, cap, you and whoever’s left standing. You’ll make a great team, that i was never a part of. No, i haven’t got clues for you. no coordinates. Zero. zip. nada. I do know this though; I warned you from the beginning. And you should have let me die up there.”

Team Captain v.s. Team Ironman

I've been wanting to write this for a little while, but I wanted to do some rewatching and research on the topic again.

This is my view on the topic of who was right, and who was wrong.

My answer? They were both right.

Let me explain:

Tony, after all the damage done that leads to this conflict, wants and does sign the accords. He wants the Avengers to be held accountable for the damages they cause and to have some restrictions so supers can't do anything they want willy nilly. He has the point here. People need rules and structure to avoid anarchy and chaos, to avoid things just ending up a mess.

Steve didn't want to sign the accords because his point was that the avengers couldn't be held down waiting for the green light, not when lives were at stake. His argument is made further when you take in the question of: 'who could actually hold this power?' Hydra invaded SHEILD, the government isn't safe either, and lord knows how corrupt politics are anyway. Hell, after Thanos snapped the government had to go make a consensus. Nobody could hold the avengers when lives were on the line.

Steve and Tony are both right. But they end up also being wrong too.

Tony is blinded by his overwhelming guilt at this point. After all he lost, the new trauma, and dealing with everything, Tony is hyper focused on redemption here. He wants to make up for the things he did, for the people lost in the cross fire. But he ends up not seeing the issues presented to him about signing the accords.

Signing the accords is a problem because, like I talked about with Steve's point, no one can simply have a leash on the heros. If they have to wait then people die, if they are leashed then Hydra would have been pulling the strings. Hydra invaded SHEILD and the government, if they pulled the strings then it's over. Not to mention that the person pushing the accords is General Ross, the man who hunted down Bruce to use him- to make the super soldier serum. General Ross is not an ally, he is a threat.

Steve was also wrong too. Avengers can't have full freedom to do whatever they please. Having powers being used recklessly and causing unnecessary damages to surroundings isn't a good thing. It's a risk to the people he wants to protect.

So Both are right and wrong. Mainly cause this conflict is complex, when you see the risks and factors of why things couldn't work one way or the other. But also remember, this is a conflict created by design too. Zemo had a part to play in this issue. Playing the game just right that would cause the leaders of the avengers to reach a boiling point on the argument that they split.

What I personally feel is that because of the trauma, pain, and exhaustion the two of them were dealing with when the accords were just presented that they were even in a good healthy mindset to even begin dealing with any of it. Both were stressed, dealing with issues on all sides, and couldn't see past the black and white view of absolutes. Steve and Tony were stuck on a chest board as pawns and both were fighting to win. Only we know how this ends up going.

I am Team Captain America AND Team Iron Man.

Cause in the end they are still a team, and I don't pick sides of my team- I choose all of them.

Bonus~

As an added part to this post I wanted to share my thoughts on Steve lying to Tony about his parents. It was wrong and unjustified, yes but I'm not talking about that. That is a simple fact. I want to explain my view on Steve's reasoning for this decision: He wanted to protect both friends of his. He wanted to protect Bucky cause he was brainwashed and innocent, he didn't want him hurt or kill for it. He wanted to protect Tony cause already he was traumatized, beaten, and utterly exhausted from so much happening. He didn't want Tony to have another thing on his mind that could potentially cause him to snap a part.

In the end it didn't matter, Tony finds out and everything falls from there. Steve here, from my pov, is the people who have the purest intentions and want the best for us, but end up making decisions that only harm us in the end unintentionally. When we make choice that we think help, but don't.

In conclusion: Do I think one or the other is wrong? No, both are right and wrong for their own reasons- making the answer a more complicated discussion.

Do I think Steve or Tony deserves the bashing they get from either side of the conflict? No. They are fundamentally human characters who wanted to do the right thing but were blinded by their own issues and too twisted and turned to properly communicate things.

Should either one be hated for these choices they made? No. They made the choice they did but in the end worked to fix what had been ripped apart, doing their best to mend that scar. They were adults about it and made up while finally having a more healthier mental state to deal with everything.

Are both still my favorite characters and ship? Fuck yes.

TONY STARK IS NOT A VILLAIN

(Sorry for my English, I’m French)

Tony is captured and tortured by terrorists in Afghanistan. He ends up with shrapnel in his heart and with an arc reactor. He discovers that the weapons he creates are used to kill innocent people. So he closes Stark Industries, despite what everyone tells him, and risks his life to wipes all trace of his weapons. He realizes that Obadiah, whom he considered as a father, tried to kill him and is responsible for all of that. He sacrifies himself by blowing up the building of Stark Industries with him on, to eliminate Stane. Some time later, he has new heart problems, and the arc reactor is killing him. He think’s he’ll die, and so gives his collections, his company.. He does everything to keep Iron Man’s property, so the armor does not fall into the wrong hands. He has to face Vanko who is against Tony because of a story with Howard (where in addition he was right) and of witch Tony knows nothing! He stops Vanko and Hammer. He work on self sustaining clean energy. He loses a friend, Coulson, and sacrifices himself to save New York by sending a missile into space. Since then he suffers from PSTD. Occupational hazard, anxiety attack, he no longer sleeps, he no longer feels safe. And spends his time making new suit to protect all he loves. He almost loses one of his best friends, Happy. His house is detroyed. And he apologizes to Pepper. He learns that he is a Hero even without his suit. He sacrifies himself to save a child. He arrests a terrorist and rescues the president. He does an operation of the heart, removes the arc reactor, to start off on a new basis. He is still betrayed, when he helps the SHIELD, with the Helicarrier for example, and that in fact it was Hydra. During a mission with the Avengers, Wanda shows him a horrible vision af his biggest fear, losing his friends, losing the Avengers, not to be up to. She puts into his mind the idea that something must be done, and lets him take the scepter, knowing the rest. Tony just want to make sure his vision never happens. He create Ultron WITH Banner, to protect the world, to prevent a disaster like the Battle of NY from happening again. He knows that we are powerless against an alien attack. All he wants is to save the world. And when he recalls that he saved New York, everybody ignored him. Captain blames him for Ultron, and hides things from him. Lol.. Tony talks to Fury about his vision. That he’s afraid of being responsible for the death of the Avengers. He creates Vision. He loses J.A.R.V.I.S, one of his besy friends, who has always been there for him. And the only good thing they’re told to him is “Stark is right” from Thor. Everyone blames him for Ultron and no one congratulates him on Vision. He creates a foundation that gives scholarships. He is aware of the collateral damages of the Avengers. And do what is right for it by signing the Accords. He does everything to keep the Avengers united. Steves blames him for keeping Wanda locked up while Tony just wants to protect her, and the world around her. He asks Ross to stop Steve himself, to limit the damage. His best friend is seriously injured, and becomes paralyzed. Natasha betrays him. Barton makes the asshole with Tony while HE is wrong. Tony decides nevertheless to go help Steve. He learns that his parents didn’t die in an accident, but that Bucky killed them. And that his friend hid the truth from him. Steve says not even the truth first. “Did you know?” “I didn’t know it was him” “Don’t bullshit me, Rogers. Did you know?” “Yes.” Steve and Bucky attack Tony, try to kill him, to make him suffer, after all that they have already made him endure. Tony could have killed Steve and did not. He asks him for his shield after realizing that Steve was not at all the hero his father saw on him. He takes care of Peter. He watch over him, protects him, saves him. He does everything to make sure that he doesn’t put his life in danger and that he continues his studies. He congratulated him, as his father did not. He doesn’t want him to have any deaths on his conscience, and he wants him to prove himself that he is a hero, even without his suit. And Tony keep going to creates stuff for the Avengers. For when they’re going to reassemble. Though they don’t do anything for him.

Anyway, I could say SO MUCH MORE. Conclusion: Tony is quite the opposite of a villain.

Could team cap fans remind me how many times HE has made the sacrifice play

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How many times Tony Stark has repeatedly sacrificed himself

People really out here saying 'women can't be superheros (or in positions of power at all) because they're too emotional' and ignoring that Captain America: Civil War is all about two grown men starting a fight and splitting their team in two because they couldn't talk it out like civilized adults

Ok now we all have the character posters for Civil War with two different teams facing each other so now I want to see Spiderman's poster where he is facing at the front

Civil War

I was on Team Cap when I read the Civil War comics but I’m slightly confused right now..

I was against the superhuman registration act and Cap was fighting for his moral values which made me to be on his side (but honestly, Ironman also had some point on SRA. You guys also know you’ll support the act if superheroes were in real life and use their powers without ANY supervision. That would be a disaster)

However, in this movie Civil War, Captain made every heroes to fight against each other, who were very close friends in order to protect his friend Bucky, who may not be a villian but definately IS A CRIMINAL (just because he was brain washed while doing so doesn’t mean he is clean) and needs to go to prison or see justice some other way. If Captain had his moral values straight, he would have found some other way to protect his friend in court instead of causing a WAR

Of course, there will be some political issues involved but I’m worried that the Civil War movie may go too personal on Cap's instead of fighting for superhuman's rights. I'm still on Team Cap but there may be changes