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How do any of Telemachus' parents handle the affections that other deities or mythical creatures might give to their son? I mean, considering Titan Ody's experiences with affection (that one goddes that cursed him) before he met Penelope and Diomedes .I'd imagine he'd be a little weary. How does Telemachus handle it himself?
What are their favorite foods? (godly food or otherwise)
Telemachus is rather blunt and unlike his father he doesn't mind openly rejecting someone. Ody also might create shelters for his baby and Diomedes and Penelope don't mind beating up annoying gods.
Although deities are technically nothing like humans, do you think hypothetically they can get something like, for example, their own version of an allergy? For instance, a curse that prevents them from touching certain metals or else it burns them. If so, what would Titan Odysseus be? If he had to think of one?
Also, assuming that Odysseus or one of the other female goddesses taught Penelope how to use her abilities, what was the hardest ability for her to learn? Same with Diomedes?
If there was some godly allergy I think that could be something like ashes from ceremonial fires. That's because godly senses are pretty fragile for it to know if new sacrifices were made or if a proper funeral was organised etc. So it is easy to imagine that ashes from those ceremonies would be a little too intense for the fragile nose. (Almost like walking through perfume samples hahaha)
And with the abilities?... For Penelope it was probably the hardest to learn how to transform/mutilate her surroundings and other people/creatures. She is a person who prefers adapting HERSELF to changes instead of changing others. Also Ody isn't the biggest fan of it as well so it wasn't for him the easiest lesson for him to give.
And for Diomedes it was absolutely shape shifting. He is usually too straightforward and not too good of a liar and because of it he had a hard time doing a convincing transformation and to keep it for long enough to fool anyone.
Why is God Odysseus so shy around people?
He is an over-thinker hahaha
Ikr also a blend of "people are so delicate! I need to be careful!" and "I don't want to be too pushy like other gods so how am I gonna do it?"
So how exactly do god pregnancies work? And how different is they're aging process compared to humans when they're born? For someone like Penelope who was human before then turned into a goddess I imagine this might be quite confusing for her.
It mostly depends on god and what form they have when "trying for the baby". That's why Helen was born from an egg.
If they take the shape of the person it means it will be a normal human pregnancy. (For example what happened to Hermes and Dionysus).
Things get complicated when it's between gods/titans/inhuman creatures. Then the pregnancy can be something as abstract as a child simply appearing as a representation of their love (for example Anteros) or a child might skip the entire pregnancy or process of baby making when it embodies some emotions or past grudges (Hephaestus, Athena, Erechtheus, Ovids' Pegasus). Sometimes it might even be something very abstract (Erechtheus once again), very simple or a little confusing.
Penelope should not be too worried. Ody isn't too freaky so the weirdest thing that might happen is Penelope laying an egg.
When the child is born it mostly depends on if it's going to inherit the godhood. It doesn't always happen, even with children of two gods. If the child inherits the godhood it will quicker grow from newborn to child (around twice as fast usually - Hermes is exemption , not a rule)
Gods that are born normally are usually just kids that grow up without anything too weird. Their strength isn't usually the problem since if their parents are gods it shouldn't bring them trouble.
How did Titan Odysseus meet any of his friends?
He met his more "ancient" friends by the fact that many titans wanted to meet one another. They were always fascinated when a new one would be born since it would usually bring some interesting changes to their routines. (Especially when their existence alone was usually more than enough to affect their surroundings)
Gods usually introduce themselves to titans they encounter out of respect. Because Ody doesn't really care about the hierarchy he doesn't mind just inviting anyone interested for some wine and gossip.
With people he usually pretends to be one when walking among them. He isn't the biggest fan of people acting as his followers. That way he can see their true selves and so he becomes friends with them more naturally.
He met Diomedes by pretending to be one of the soldiers while the army was travelling. He was curious and he enjoyed how soldiers would sing songs and dance when taking breaks.
Titan Penelope? Ever thought about idea?
Not really. I'm more fascinated by the idea of titan falling in love with a human who would later become a god so they could be immortal together.
At least for me Penelope feels more special with her origin as a Spartan princess who fell in love with a titan.
Titan Odysseus you said that he could create sanctuaries that couldn't be easily accessed by others. How often did he use those and what was the reason he used them for?
He uses them mostly to make sure people won't be accidentally affected by his presence. He also makes them to protect people that he witnessed being chased by gods, satyrs etc.
He also used to make those when having a date with a lover so they would not be spotted together by some strangers.
He doesn't use them too often. Just when he feels it's needed.
So aside from making people calm, what other abilities does Titan Odysseus have? Who is Odysseus's least favorite family member and most favorite family member? ( I'm talking about those of both Titans and other Olympian gods?)
How did Odysseus manage to convince Penelope of letting him date Diomedes?
Also, what do Penelope and Diomedes do to bond with each other?
1) He can remove strong emotions, remove specific sounds, he can ensure that created by him sanctuaries won't be found and in addition to that most of the basic god powers like shape shifting. His powers are more about affecting someone's mind, emotions and senses, he can slightly affect the surroundings but he isn't too good at it.
2) His least favourite are probably Zeus, Chronos and . Meanwhile his favourites are Artemis, Helios, Pan and Athena.
3) It wasn't that difficult to convince her. She was already very happy to see Ody ask for permission to court someone. Ody just showed her Dio and after spending some time she would make it clear if she approves or not.
4) It's a magical power of two introverts to get along even when not doing anything special. They like to just talk, enjoy their hobbies or go on a hunt.
Ody as a titan would be a titan of peace (as calmness) and if he was a god he would most likely be a god of safety (as son of Poseidon he would probably be more connected to sailing)
Do you have any myths about Diomedes after he gets turned into a god?
What was Titan Odysseus's childhood like?
1. not yet
2. A childhood of a titan is a vague timeframe. Odysseus remembers the time where people weren't created yet. He remembers the time without worship and different meanings of pleasure. There was a time when he just like the other ancient generation didn't possess sentimentality over acts of love making.
It used to be something as simple as drinking water from the river when you are thirsty and eating fruits when you are hungry. Odysseus still remembers the names of titans, nymphs and satyrs that used to share with him pleasure. He isn't sure if he sires any children from that time since children made between titans or ancient gods like Nyx or Gaya were growing up so fast they barely needed parents and they quickly understood the meaning of domains that they embodied. After all he barely remembers Gaya or Eros (in Hesiod's Theogony Eros as spiritual embodiment of love was made by Khaos instead of being son of Aphrodite) ever nurturing him or teaching him about his domain. He WAS the peace. He was what calmed those in distress and what allowed others to enjoy a quiet existence of nature.
But then the people arrived. Those creatures made out of clay were fascinated to the titan who despite living for centuries was maybe in his teen years.
They lived for such a short time that they saw importance in the smallest of things. Odysseus loved seeing how people would put a lot of care in creating tasty food, building homes or nurturing their youth.
He then also witnessed the true meaning of marriage and family. People who lived for such a short time would find another half to share life with. They would do everything together and even refused to share the nights with anyone else just to prove their devotion.
While Odysseus never found interest in the idea of being worshipped by the people, ha absolutely fell in love with the marriages. Now he couldn't imagine having an affair with anyone that wasn't this special for him. And so he waited until he found himself someone so special he would like to share his life with.
What did Titan Odysseus, Penelope, and Diomedes do as a couple? Considering Ody's abilities made it hard for them to be around him for a short period of time before they became deities, how did that work?
When Penelope and Diomedes were mortals they would have a very active first day with Ody and then calm second. Ody would then leave for a few hours and the cycle could repeat.
For example with Penelope they would play around trees, dance etc in the first day and in the second they would have a peaceful day during which Penelope would weave and Ody would carve in wood. Or they would both play instruments together.
With Diomedes they used to spar and play a lot of "tavern" games and later do something like fishing.
Also it's not like they could stay for too long with him before they got married and became gods. Penelope was a princess and she was expected to be home regularly and Diomedes met Odysseus when he was a soldier and a king. Ody usually had to be the one to remind them about their duties.
Short "myth" about Titan of Peace Odysseus.
After many days Dionysus finally found a perfect spot for his cult to celebrate. It was a small island full of fruits, flowers and other breathtaking sights.
He let his people and satyrs alone for a day while he would gather the wine needed. What surprised him was that once he was back, his people were asleep. Even when they woke up they would act too calm to enjoy a party.
Dionysus tried again and again to make them active. In the act of desperation he called out Apollo to help him.
The god of music at first laughed at the god of wine, claiming that he's so boring that even his followers mellowed down.
But suddenly the same thing happened to Apollo's followers as well. His musicians would only play lullabies and his dancers only moved slowly in embrace.
Buty gods tried to find the source of it all and it was then where they found Titan Odysseus sleeping in the nearby field of flowers.
Narcoleptic titan probably planned only to nap for a short while but black or loud wildlife on this island created a situation where nothing would wake him up naturally and now everyone was experiencing an effect of his domain.
Both gods tried everything to wake him up but nothing was helping. The river was too shallow, warm and calm to wake up titan and most animals were unwilling to help.
Finally out of desperation Dionysus lured in the loudest goat on the island and Apollo used its horn to turn it into an instrument noisy enough to awaken their friend.
They blew at it with the full power of their lungs. It was heard by a nearby island as well and even Helios would almost trip from his chariot, being startled by the instrument.
But it worked! Odysseus woke up. With slow movement he stretched his limbs. Seeing tired looking Apollo and Dionysus (they are tired since they tried to wake him up for days) he asks if he can help them with anything. The two gods explained the situation which made Odysseus embarrassed. He apologised and promised to leave the island, but Dionysus invited Ody to come back in three days. He would be able to enjoy some fun and music and he would be a huge help in calming down drunk followers of his.
The gods and titan enjoyed their time with mortals and the world was introduced to new instruments. The horn 📯
What do you think Diomedes bonding attempts with Telemachus were like?(If it was either before he gained immortality or after he gained immortality). What do you think Telemachus would be like as a Titan?
Diomedes went through an awkward stage of trying to understand how babies work and then trying to understand how godly babies work hahaha
I imagine Dio taking Telemachus on trips to cities and showing him things that his parents might not understand too well. He is like a big brother when it comes to answering questions.
Once Telemachus was old enough he would absolutely teach him how to spar and use weapons. Also Diomedes is the one who accidentally becomes a bad influence to baby Telemachus (since Diomedes is a little hot headed and didn't learn tact)
Telemachus would not be a titan but a god (even if he would be a child of titan Odysseus). He would be curious of people and the world like his parents. He enjoys pretending to be a human just to join other travellers on their way.
He would be the type of person who would randomly make a backpack journey around the country only to tell you about it once he's back. Also if he sees something he finds cool he WILL drag one of his three parents to show it.
He is also a prankster like his father, but while his dad would mess with people by scaring them a little or making them trip, Telemachus would instead come up with random gossips, make your tent fall a few times before you can build it correctly or he would add something to your food/drink that would make your tongue blue. (It represents innocent accidents that might happen on camping trips)
Do you think Titan Odysseus looks any different from God Odysseus? Are there personalities any different?
How exactly do Diomedes, Penelope, and Odysseus go about discipline/raising Telemachus ?
Any fun facts about them as deities (Telemachus and Penelope)?
What are the reactions of those from the kingdom of Argos (if he somehow managed to convince them of dating a Titan and a goddess)?
Okay so I have a headcanon about titans that they are much more of an embodiment of the domain they represent. It basically goes
Chaos > ancient gods (Gaya, Nyx, Tartarus) > Titans > Gods embodying elements (Limos) > "Olympian gods" > minor gods > nymphs/spirits > demigods
The further it goes the more human they are. For example Limos as goddess of hunger embodied her element to the point where even Demeter couldn't get close to her, or how Helios is sometimes described as the sun itself which never happened to Apollo.
Odysseus as a titan of peace would cause his surroundings to become calm. He sometimes visits cities that were victims of a panic to calm them down. He also helps by visiting places that are meant to be sanctuaries like temples. If he would stay too long he could risk people acting like lotus eaters and not being willing to work so he makes sure to not stay in one place for more than a month.
Titan Ody looks more like a harpy than a human (he has harpy legs and his body is mostly covered in feathers with exception being his chest, neck, arms and face) he has a pair of wings on his back and on his head.
God Odysseus looks mostly like a man in his twenties with wings on his lower back and head.
Raising Telemachus is different depending if it's god Odysseus or titan one. If he's a god, he, Penelope and Dio would stay in Argos at first and make sure if Telemachus is a god or not (since gods do not always give birth to other gods). Telemachus would be raised among people of Argos until he develops his domain.
If Odysseus is a titan they would raise Telemachus in the fields that are seen as Ody's main domain. Diomedes would make sure to take Telemachus regularly to some cities to make sure that he would know more about people. (Since God Ody is easily startled by people and titan one can't stay with them too long without affecting them)
In both Odysseus would share stories with his baby and show him many places while Penelope would introduce Telemachus to many books, arts and crafts.
Ody is more relaxed about raising Telemachus. He is a little bit overprotective but at the same time he wants his baby to enjoy what the world has to offer. Penelope is a kind but stern parent. She is the one who established things like bedtime or will give him timeout for misbehaving. Diomedes is at first confused as hell because he knows nothing about raising kids but he gets better with time. He also was only recently granted godhood or he is about to so he is still figuring out all the god stuff while trying to raise a baby that can easily lift him.
With the people of Argos it's a funny story.
At first they obviously didn't believe him when he said he's a lover of a titan. But once Sthenelus realised that Dio isn't lying he's PANICKING! Everyone knows that Odysseus has been married for over a century. They are scared that his wife will punish Dio and the entire Argos for this situation. They want to build a temple for Penelope to beg her for forgiveness only to turn out that Penelope doesn't mind sharing her husband (especially since the first thing Ody did was to ask for his wife's permission to have a date with a pretty human.) Dio decides to stay human until he finds someone to replace him on the throne and Sthenelus is always sweating bullets when he feels the presence of the titan and the goddess.
Titan or god Odysseus. What's your take on dioodypen? Like how would it go?
With Penelope it would probably be the same as I described before.
Dio would stumble upon them by accident. He would travel only to hear the soft sound of music.
At first he was just visiting them regularly but then he admitted that he started falling for them
They would start dating and Dio would most likely accept ambrosia.
Also when he tried to tell others nobody believed him that he dates a titan and goddess
If you were your own Titan Odysseus lore, how would you go about it?
I mostly had one main idea. Where Odysseus would be a titan of peace (in the sense of calmness)
Odysseus would be a gentle titan who enjoys pretending to be mortal just to listen to stories shared by travelers. (That's how he gained most of his wisdom)
He enjoys some tricks and practical jokes but never something too cruel.
He and Hypnos would be friends and they would often be associated with one another for obvious reasons.
He's seen as a patron of caretakers and one of his symbols is chamomile.
His main story would come from how a god fell in love with him but he kept avoiding the advances with his words. Because of it the god decided to steal Eros' arrow and poured the gold from it into Ody's nectar. Once the titan drank it his tongue turned gold and he was forced to answer all advances with words of love.
To avoid gods/nymphs/people forcing upon him romances Odysseus started wearing rags and wrapping himself in bandages, looking like a sickly beggar so nobody would be interested in him.
He fell in love with Penelope who despite him looking displeasing she would always visit him. They would share stories while she was weaving baskets and he was carving in the wood.
Even then the Spartan princess would show her affection by gifting him instruments or singing love songs allowing the titan to listen to confessions without the need to say anything in exchange.
Helios decided to help the pair by whispering to the princess Ody's secret. His curse and his fears related to it. How no matter how much he loves someone he might not be able to ever be honest with them.
And so Penelope did something unexpected. She asked the titan to remove her tongue. Odysseus was terrified when he found out but then he understood. She did it so her words would never accidentally force Ody to say or do something that he didn't mean.
Once fed ambrosia, Penelope became the goddess of silence. Two beings with domains seen almost as inseparable.
Sometimes a traveler might hear in the middle of the night a soft humming of a woman and a melodic voice of man singing softly, almost whispering sweet words of love he has towards his wife.