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โ Aatamixx, the Echoflower System's Introduction ๐ซ๐ชป
Hello, welcome to my blog, I'm Aatami (AKA Mishka or Snep)! Well, that's just collectively speaking. If you're talking about the whole system, you can call me (us) the Echoflower System. My collective pronouns are he/him, but kit/kitself, nya/nyaself, and star/starself are all good too. I'm pretty new to Tumblr (well I had a blog in like 2020, but I've forgotten basically everything about itโฆ also I use parentheses way too much, gosh), but I plan to use this blog as a sort of archive for all the xenogenders I've coined, as well as getting into the MOGAI and plural communities on here. I hope I can find my people on this website. /lh
(This post will be periodically edited as things about myself change, of course.)
โ So Now That I Know This Aatami, Where Can I Find Him? โ
In case you had it in you for even more rambling, you can check out my about me literature on Toyhouse (I use it like a Carrd). More things are already linked there, so I don't need to re-add them all here. I also use the account that it's posted under for posting the occasional bulletin (and storing my original characters, but those are all private and will remain as such for the foreseeable future).
โ Small Facts About the System โ
(Switching to using plural language for this was a little jarring lawl, I'm very much used to referring to myself singularly.)
โ We have OSDD-1B (recognized by our psychologist, but unable to be officially diagnosed due to not being disordered โ we've achieved functional multiplicity, surprisingly enough) and are of mixed traumagenic origins
โ We are an aceplex
โ We're a theriosystem
โ We are very male- / masculine-heavy, due to our gender dysphoria affecting everyone
โ Because we're so male-heavy, we default to using he/him instead of they/them when referring to an unspecified alter or one whose gender identity is unknown
โ We're also somewhat angel-heavy
โ Due to our maladaptive daydreaming, our system has countless paracosms (the most active ones of which being the worlds our original stories are set in, as well as our fandoms, especially ones we're hyperfixating on)
โ Our headspace is exclusively set in our daydreams, and is not something that's just there in the background โ it has to be consciously visualized and visited (or well, accidentally while zoning out)
โ We are a dreamway system of sorts, but I should mention that we don't experience walk-ins and pretty much none of our alters are paragenic
โ Our alters almost never interact in the headspace, but they can use things like the Simply Plural chat and get a conversation going if need be
โ Alter Signoff Chart โ
(I originally planned to list their roles here too, but I ended up deciding against it, since I'm unsure of what some of their purposes are and uncomfortable with sharing a few others.)
โ The Hosts โ
โก๏ธ๐ = Fritz โ He/Kit/Spark
๐๐บ = Sindri โ He/Kit/Meow/Nya/Star/.Exe
๐๐ง = Samuel โ He/Him
โ๏ธ๐ = Mikko โ He/They/Kit/Nya/Snow/Star
โ Alfred's Subsystem โ
๐พ๐ฉธ = Alfred โ He/Him
๐พ๐ฌ = Ekkehard (Eike) โ He/Him
๐พ๐ค = Kelso โ He/Him
๐พโจ = Aleksi โ He/They/Pup
๐พ๐ = Salem โ She/He/They/Pup
โ Everyone Else โ
โ๏ธ๐ฅ = Akatsuki โ He/Kit
โโ๏ธ= Alois โ He/Him
๐ป๐ = Asriel โ He/They
๐น๐ = August โ He/They
๐ฆโโฌ๐ = Corbin โ He/Him
๐ช๐ฌ = Dylan โ He/Him
๐โโฌ๐ = Ender โ Xae/They/He/Kit
๐โญ๏ธ = Felix โ He/They
๐๐ฆ = Finnley โ He/They
๐ชฝ๐น = Gabriel โ They/He
๐ช๐ช = Ivan โ He/Him
๐๐ = Jeremy โ He/Him
๐ช๐ = Katsumi / Sabrina โ She/They/He/Kit/Meow/Mew/Nya
๐บ๐ฉธ = Lavrentiy โ He/Him
๐ฟโ๏ธ = Malachi โ He/Him
๐๐ฆฎ = Nanner (trying to think of a new name for himself) โ He/She/They/Pup
๐๐ฅ๏ธ = Prototype (trying to think of a new name for himself) โ He/Him
๐ฅ๐ก๏ธ = Reinhard โ He/Him
๐ช๐ = Saturn โ He/They/Pup/Star
๐ธ๐งก = Shalva โ He/Him
๐๐ = Sylvan โ He/They/Bun
๐ชณ๐ฉธ = Vermin โ They/He
๐๏ธ๐ฉธ = (Currently undecided on a name for himself, very recently discovered.) โ He/Him
When you struggle with identity loss so you just adopt that as your identity.
Me: Scrolling thru Tumblr
Theo: Fucking fronts specifically to make me go back and like a post I didn't care enough to like myself
And that's how literally every post on our feed was liked.
Do any other systems just... like... look through stuff they made/said before they knew they were a system and cringe so hard?
Like. Personally, we made up an entire alternative explanation for what we were to avoid being associated with alters... but uh, funny story, here we are now :]
Greetings and Salutations!
(SYS INTRO)
The Ghosttown Syndicate
BYI/DNI:
We are a truamagenic system who does not support any other sys-type. Kindly DNI if you support, are, or have โendo/other sys typeโ safe pages. Please block us. We donโt want your interactions! /g/srs
We are fictive heavy!
As of now, we have all male/male presenting alters.
Anyone above 23 DNI! Anyone below 15 DNI.
Not all of us will have intros!
Please do not treat our alters as their source. Assume they donโt want to be.
HOSTS!!: (Name - Role(s) - Tag)
QSMP!Cellbit: main host, Comforter, Soother - ๐ง (taken..sorry I wanted to add that lol. -๐ง)
Some info about us!
We are an OSDD-1b system of almost 50! We are also artists. (Please donโt ask us for requests!)
We have autism, ADHD and BPD!
We are Minecraft pros!! We really enjoy Minecraft, Roblox, CRK, QSMP, Pokรฉmon, and tons more. (We also slightly enjoy DSMP but understand we do NOT support Dream! ^^ /srs)
Anyways, we donโt know how to fucking use Tumblr so heres a wall of infoboxes LMAAOOOO ๐ญ๐ญ
Do you have any stance on syscorse (specifically regarding non traumagenic systems)?
Endogenic systems are dope and anyone who says/thinks otherwise can fuck off until they're willing to understand.
"Get angry at #Thing so I dont have to think about it" is just so stupidly textbook behavior, I feel sorry for people like this online,
Victims of social media honestly more than anything else. Annoying cuntwads nonetheless.
Fuck it. Go have fun with your system. People tell you that you're roleplaying because you have odd/cringe experiences? Fuck them. Your experiences are real. And regardless, roleplay is available to everyone and is a fun past time, even if you ARE roleplaying about your system. Go system hop, date your headmates, get overt with it, obsess about interests (which if you're an introject, may be yourself). Life is too short to be worried about haters hating on you. What are they gonna do? Send a hate anon? Ohh I'm so scared~
This is truly beautiful work <3
wonderful
i don't know if we will leave this up, because we aren't sure if it comes across how we would like. but the alter who wrote this, yellowfang, has wanted to create it for some time, so we opted to try.
we, once again, apologize for any art style inconsistencies. the comic artwork itself was worked on by several of us.
We usually say everything pre-realization is the hosts memories but the reality is that we can actually pin point certain memories and name who lived them. Before we knew we were a system fictives still experienced source memories, and when we were waaay younger we literally talked about having a 'sister in my head'
My point here is that this is true, the disorder does not form when you realize you have it
As a reminder:
We were not fully aware of being a system until around 2015-2016. I was around 19 years old (I think). And thatโs absolutely valid - this disorder is made to be covert.
But becoming aware of your system =\= it forming. Your system forms from childhood trauma. Becoming aware of it later in life doesnโt erase the other aspects of OSDDID, such as the dissociative amnesia and impact OSDDID has on your identity.
About Us
Hey y'all! We're HeadOfSeaFoam, and we have DID! As we mentioned in our bio, we are going to be making comics about our experiences as a system and posting them here. We're also going to be posting some general DID/OSDD stuff. Here's some stuff about us and our page:
Asks: - If you have any questions about our comics or DID/OSDD in general, feel free to ask! We actually enjoy answering questions about this stuff. - Please remember that we cannot diagnose anyone and we are not medical professionals, though we have read the DID section of the DSM-V and have had to do... too much research on this to get people to listen to us. So we do know what weโre talking about, but we are still not comfortable diagnosing anyone. - The only DID/OSDD related stuff we are not okay with being messaged about are trauma stuff, unless we specifically say we're okay with talking about a particular part of our trauma (this is for obvious reasons), and syscourse (because it is everywhere and we are so tired of hearing about it- we are not okay with being messaged about any discourse in general). We do have a syscourse stance, we just donโt want to talk about it.
Other Stuff: - We might have the name of a random piece of media as a tag in a post. If we do, it's probably the source of the person who made the post or someone mentioned in the post. - We do have factives, some of whom have the same name as their sources. Unless said factive is a deceased historical figure, has a super common first name (in that case, we just won't say the source/last name), or something like that, we will not be using their name if it is the same as their source's. We will likely use a periodic table element that is somewhat connected to them. Example: if we had an introject of someone named Theophania Indigo (just a random super uncommon name), we could go with Thorium (Th), Titanium (Ti), or Indium (In).
-Singlets (people who are not systems) can absolutely interact/follow.
Some things about us collectively:
Secular Jew.
Physically disabled.
Rollator user.
Queer.
Intersex.
Transmasculine & transfeminine (see previous bullet).
Probably something else I meant to put here that I am now forgetting.
We hope you enjoy our comics! :D
made a meme for anyone else out there who gets stuck in the "it wasnt that bad!" or "maybe im not traumatized!" loops because trauma denial sucks ass!!! you all are valid!!!
I just ran into this on my feed, and I'm having trouble looking up the info, so maybe someone here could tell me (please?);
What are endogenic systems and traumagenic systems, in regards to mental illness (and maybe autism)?
Are you supportive of endogenics it doesn't say anywhere and I can't tell if I need to ignore the blog or not (no offense I just don't fw endos)
Hi there, anon! We are a traumagenic system and we believe that plurality only develops through trauma. We do not police what kind of trauma is โenoughโ to cause plurality. We also donโt believe that all โendogenicโ systems are faking (they may not have access to the memories of the trauma that they went through or they may be experiencing other forms of dissociation or mental health concerns), so we donโt go out of our way to attack anyone based on their system origin. I hope that makes sense.
Even as someone who is pro-endogenic, I think it is important to say that the research done on DID, OSDD, and other trauma-based dissociative conditions is still valuable and important, even if youโre not a traumagenic system.
Iโm not saying you need to be an expert or spend several hours reading so many books and peer-reviewed papers that you might as well have a PhD. Iโm saying that having a basic grasp of concepts like C-PTSD, structural dissociation, and the core clinical models of trauma-based plurality will help you become a better ally to traumagenic systems, mixed-origin systems (like me), and traumatized endogenic systems.
Iโve noticed that some endogenic spaces have a tendency to either dismiss research on traumagenic systems as irrelevant or criticize it for not including endogenic experiences. But hereโs the thingโฆ that doesnโt mean the existing research is wrong. Itโs just focused on a different population of people whose system formed because of trauma.
Research doesnโt extensively talk about endogenic or mixed-origin systems because those arenโt typically studied in a clinical (i.e., pathological) context. That doesnโt make our experiences less valid. It just means we exist outside the current research. And thatโs okay. But it is still good to understand where traumagenic systems are coming from because not all of us are without trauma, and we need you as an ally. Especially if we want mutual respect and solidarity within plural spaces.
I think about this a lot because if endogenic spaces were a lot more like this a few years ago, I wouldโve gotten support and found community a lot sooner. It has gotten a lot better since the last time Iโve been in plural spaces, but there is still more room to grow.
questions! 1, 4 and 21 :}
This post is gonna be long, so if you want to read it, press the "keep reading" thing!
1. Kintypes?
Ok, gonna answer for all of us who are known, lol. We are working on making/creating some packmates that aren't included in this post.
For me, it's wolf, dog, cat, crow, and ockins (Zuki, Cyan, and Akay. Zuki is MHA/BNHA, Cyan is RWBY, and Akay is DDLC). And then also "mixtures" of the previous ("actual") animal kins (such as wolfdog, cat + crow, etc). I might actually have more kins than this, but these are the known ones.
We have Shirley, who shifts between multiple (if not all) medium and big dog breeds [and some other canines, like wolves and foxes]. There is also Lynix, who shifts between multiple kinds of felines (domestic cat breeds, lions, etc). Declan is a cat. Den is a dragon.
Mystery and Lakey are hard to actually pinpoint what they actually are, lol. But they aren't human.
We have (oc) fictives as well. We don't know whether to really count them for their "fictiveness," but they do fit under the alterhuman and nonhuman communities, and they use those terms, so we will talk about them a bit. Vesper is a fallen angel from the Helluvaverse (if you [general you] don't like that we have a Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss fictive than just block us pls). Okami is a werecreature from MHA/BNHA [my cousin!!!]. Oynx is a wolfdog animatronic from FNAF. Phalen is a werecreature from the Harry Potter universe [not sure what timeline they are from, lol]. Moonfire is a tiefling dragon mix from DND [we have never actually played DND in this life sadly].
We also have a "subsystem" (we call it a subpack, lol. As we use pack instead of system) that is fictive(s) from Encanto [we are bodily white, so if this upsets anyone, just block us please]. We aren't gonna go into any real detail about this subpack, but we will say that none of them are (actually) human, lol.
4. Favorite kintype?
This is hard, lol. For the longest time, I was mainly talking about Zuki, but I don't think I would call Zuki my "favorite." I miss my life as Zuki, but I also miss my life as Cyan and Akay. I miss being more animal-like than this stupid human body [this body is stupid cause it doesn't fit any of us, not because 'humans are bad' btw. We don't hate humans. We may have fear and shit of (unknown to us) humans, but we don't hate humans]. Anyways, I would probably just say a mixture of all of my ("actual") animal kins, so a wolfdog cat crow creature, lol.
Don't think we/I am gonna answer for the others, cause this is longer than we thought it'd be.
21. How does your plurality affect your alterhumanity?
Hey, it's our question we added for us!!! Also, did we use "affect" right?
Anyways, our plurality affects our alterhumanity in many ways, lol. We have talked a bit about multiple of our/my packmates in this post already. None of us in the "Wildlife Pack" are human. We are all alterhumans and nonhumans.
Our plurality is also very much intertwined with our alterhumanity. It is essentially part of our alterhumanity. While some plural beings may not consider themselves alterhumans, plurality is/can be a part of the alterhuman umbrella. And that is definitely the case for us.
We don't know exactly what our origin is for our plurality but we are pretty sure (around 99.99% sure) that we do not have a CDD [CDD means complex dissociative disorder, which are things like DID, OSDD, etc]. We also think trauma at least impacted our plurality even if it didn't cause it, so we mostly call ourselves quoitraumagenic, but we might not 100% fit under "traumagenic." Anyways, we are 100% pro endo and endo safe!! If anyone doesn't like that, block us.
- Shay ๐พ
Anyways, we/I have ranted for a lot of this post, lol. So this is gonna be the end of it for now.
Also, if there are any mistakes with spelling, grammar, etc. Only correct us if you are meaning it in a constructive way, please. As we are bad with English (despite it being our main/only language in this life/body, lol). [We are disabled in multiple ways, and it affects us in multiple ways.]
We found a different origin term that fits from the same site.
So this and unknown will be the ones we will likely use the most.
- Shay (They/it)
https://multiplicity.fandom.com/wiki/Category:System_origins
Looked at this to learn about plural origins.
These feel like the best terms for our origin right now.
So we will be using these terms, probably mostly unknown.
- Shay (They/it) | Host & someone else no idea who rn (they/it)